From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 22 20:25:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA05F833 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces+449007.33897438.299575@icpbounce.com) Received: from drone130.ral.icpbounce.com (drone130.ral.icpbounce.com [216.27.86.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66F8CD2 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 20:25:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=default; d=icontact.com; h=Mime-Version:From:To:Date:Subject:List-Unsubscribe:Content-Type:Message-ID; bh=+oJocX4Glaw7j3lMUgWohptr7vE=; b=TD2r+/Driy0GLZKCR9y0CtcDe8emhXRy4DKuO+Z0UAPlnrG2S+NIBDNoIk5ItAVGPKKiMiq+7eY7 iOmsCnzsyCRKAdZO+hiudGjVav4Ddy21U5Dk1QpjZsz6FZcjCtXoWy9C30sa8GbkCzAtrF2Ls0vG 8Ez3rxIGHm05RyrmVqI= Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Larry Shiller" To: Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 16:05:07 -0400 Subject: Your May 2013 ShillerMath Tidbit Errors-To: bounces+449007.33897438.299575@icpbounce.com X-List-Unsubscribe: X-Unsubscribe-Web: X-ICPINFO: X-Return-Path-Hint: bounces+449007.33897438.299575@icpbounce.com Message-ID: <0.1.D3.924.1CE5727A843D9AA.0@drone130.ral.icpbounce.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 20:25:32 -0000 Your May 2013 ShillerMath Tidbit by Larry=0AShiller [http://www.icontact-ar= chive.com/F6pSnK7EpoqgJj2XwinVW012kS5zF8k7?w=3D4#fblike][http://twitter.com= /share?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Ficont.ac%2F1Li5Y&text=3DMath+curriculum+and+bling= %3F+Researchers+say+it+matters%21+http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F12vnGvz+%23Montesso= ri+%23math&via=3DShillerMath][http://www.icontact-archive.com/F6pSnK7EpoqgJ= j2XwinVW012kS5zF8k7?w=3D4#googleplusone][http://www.icontact-archive.com/F6= pSnK7EpoqgJj2XwinVW012kS5zF8k7?w=3D4#linkedinshare]=0A=0ABringing the bling= to math=0A=0ANot all manipulatives are created equal=0A=0AUniversity of No= tre Dame Associate Professor of Psychology Nicole McNeil studies=0Ahow chil= dren learn (or don't learn) math. She just came up with some fascinating=0A= results that have repercussions for parents who want their preschoolers to = learn=0A- and love - math.=0A=0AManipulatives work - but only when they are= unfamiliar to the child. When=0Achildren know a manipulative and its purpo= se, they focus on that - and not on=0Aits alternative purpose in helping to= learn math.=0A=0AWhen a child doesn't know a manipulative, what the author= s call "perceptual=0Arichness" takes place - a good thing because it brings= more parts of the brain=0Ato bear on the mathematical concept and not on a= ny pre-conceived notion of what=0Athe manipulative normally does.=0A=0AIn o= ther words, when it comes to preschooler math manipulatives, don't use that= =0Athing if it don't have that bling.=0A=0AFunny bone=0A=0AThey said it=0A= =0AIt's a lot of bling to play with. You got to have the bling. 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All Right= s Reserved.=0A=0AReferences=0A=0A1. http://www.shillermath.com/=0A2. http:/= /www.shillermath.com/contact-us-2/=0A3. http://www.facebook.com/ShillerMath= =0A=0AThis message was sent to freebsd-chat@freebsd.org from: ShillerMath | 258 Thunder Lake Road | Wilton, CT 06897=0A=0AManage Your Subscription:=0Ahttp://app.icontact.com/icp/mmail-mprofil= e.pl?r=3D33897438&l=3D20165&s=3DIH2K&m=3D299575&c=3D449007=0A=0ASend To a Friend: =0Ahttp://app.icontact.com/ic= p/core/message/forward?m=3D299575&s=3D33897438&c=3DIH2K&cid=3D449007=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 23 08:51:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43952601; Thu, 23 May 2013 08:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dt71@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F3FDD3; Thu, 23 May 2013 08:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.80] ([84.2.253.116]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MVIva-1UydIe3T0Y-00YfrJ; Thu, 23 May 2013 10:51:11 +0200 Message-ID: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:51:03 +0200 From: dt71@gmx.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: "injunction" on the use of GA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:99c8joK/TsCOtEiHhDWr2bbvQLpkUM7s7sqBEzHKU3zZnPaNNkU h4ZG08GWJVwSwRs5yRQa1ItWfZCDRbfAHNKLourlItaGhSxvqX1Jj77MMSt6cihj9Ywhcse T4Lh/s+vCkP1zSsG9sPm0co38+CLA3uV0H0EEsQ8o6xkNnvQr3mmdoe0H5Bi6LuxXKP8+zM YR/P2E5trvCob4QCEqMGw== Cc: gjb@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 08:51:12 -0000 Several months ago, the FreeBSD web master decided to cover the main FreeBSD web site with Google Analytics, without giving any response or respect to critics and concerns raised by the user community, such as questioned benefits, public moral issues and noted alternatives. Now, I call for an "injunction" for the FreeBSD web master to explain, thoroughly: What has so far been gained through the use of GA? Of these, which ones could not have been achieved otherwise, such as with a different tool? Also of these, which ones are significant, and why? What warrants the continued application of GA? I hope to see a compelling argument that justifies the web master's silent negligence several months ago, or admittance and relevant acts otherwise. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 23 08:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96837750; Thu, 23 May 2013 08:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jayton.garnett@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com (mail-ie0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64033E1A; Thu, 23 May 2013 08:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id aq17so7946667iec.15 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 01:55:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=psQUvs/8ApM53CmhF8dh6fLQOi6SkHkuKZ9JnORoQSE=; b=GoqAag927biztGFF7FDL6U+ABsNOK5SW0MRmDyjqbgWM1niGijbDv87FSgHgA5rsG/ JBnEAfEgT8xx340Ac+8pwKdqrsbxP0DVGkvREvoS9HKW6JuBrUB7Ik985Iaz0RvsK6i0 f/DZ8C/aMdEeCxIuOXR81Z647z7wrQ/u/DS18NAN6tg4M50HhUW/UMPHKPnQUwPqo7+7 M1qACjT5s4IztBUTxUXcyowD5Jr9BsblrP9T+a6SFtibZKoZ6cVP+KJ8ILnGXwrmHwuH KYqsNG0T+9nUgSXYUmykDnPw+ESNeZO+druDeBI4fy13pz66qnhVbeVfQOmppfSFaVTn Nl7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.129.8 with SMTP id ns8mr10908299igb.4.1369299355151; Thu, 23 May 2013 01:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.19.236 with HTTP; Thu, 23 May 2013 01:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.19.236 with HTTP; Thu, 23 May 2013 01:55:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:55:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA From: Jayton Garnett To: dt71@gmx.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: gjb@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 08:55:55 -0000 Does it really matter? On 23 May 2013 09:51, wrote: > Several months ago, the FreeBSD web master decided to cover the main > FreeBSD web site with Google Analytics, without giving any response or > respect to critics and concerns raised by the user community, such as > questioned benefits, public moral issues and noted alternatives. Now, I > call for an "injunction" for the FreeBSD web master to explain, thoroughly: > > What has so far been gained through the use of GA? > Of these, which ones could not have been achieved otherwise, such as with > a different tool? > Also of these, which ones are significant, and why? > What warrants the continued application of GA? > > I hope to see a compelling argument that justifies the web master's silent > negligence several months ago, or admittance and relevant acts otherwise. > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@**freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 23 16:45:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFCE810 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 16:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dt71@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B19FB6 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 16:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.80] ([84.0.100.111]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MZ8fw-1UtnD63aea-00Kw7G for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 18:45:40 +0200 Message-ID: <519E47AD.6050706@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 18:45:33 +0200 From: dt71@gmx.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fDjJgZqxMKZiJ+l+QEF002a1GiMWwIpm7rR78zNovNA5Ly8qyu/ Ow0U87SZzeiQMgkJs2Pa9TMDbUO8U5FHRM1Xio/+FAf0AS5xVUMBTMh4rC+f/V6Gl8PYg4t PNlE3uGsU/Kk+ehBuw6TGP7C45wJrV/V9Q6rMHcRSjqSydDnbpPflo4T9NCSufgow+nvqZs r3uL5y1hx5B07roYBky5w== X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:45:42 -0000 On 05/23/2013 10:55, Jayton Garnett wrote: > Does it really matter? Yes, but you knew that. From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 23 20:45:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C929F20 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 20:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miketrewartha@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-x234.google.com (mail-pb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EA9F7B for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 20:45:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id um15so3372277pbc.39 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 13:45:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=sZUB2AGP8vAkDM74m1BDFHqoio1EzYwIkbnbuI7eivU=; b=DSgyl7kGgmLIGrKu+AjZCW4/6Kubsa3pZEE6fD0WbvabP2nrr3jPlrFpQ3on2ayZvC JeIczF4wxrYLbJ2fCZOr0WEaL/gEMxjkuGi/+Dewq7C1DkFfjzCUPvLVwEzRoCmOFLsy 2JES0dfGNXSm1U94/sPL9a1MRKDJAmdq8MnIcPPNitqldIO3P0MQroD0cTfX55zErBCA k+oOakRoRovSQSsSrAoHiJU3TVS5ABVFOPNaUqy+Ach5mCEfgY8MzQad4WjjlUCled83 uLgMjMPQRqLuT4SRuKvNjzQVW0uxnLMo7woDQvXeapGeO74OC5Ge0ZHMCs1WKc1gi3om gjEA== X-Received: by 10.68.189.36 with SMTP id gf4mr9656016pbc.73.1369341939055; Thu, 23 May 2013 13:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (27-33-112-177.tpgi.com.au. [27.33.112.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cc15sm14182567pac.1.2013.05.23.13.45.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 May 2013 13:45:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> <519E47AD.6050706@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <519E47AD.6050706@gmx.com> Message-Id: <3B73691C-66D9-4930-AC29-4CCDDF1E6987@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B142) From: Mike Trewartha Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 06:15:32 +0930 To: "dt71@gmx.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-chat@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:45:39 -0000 This has already been discussed: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2012-December/006809.html On 24/05/2013, at 2:15 AM, dt71@gmx.com wrote: > On 05/23/2013 10:55, Jayton Garnett wrote: >> Does it really matter? > > Yes, but you knew that. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 23 22:17:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D6BD6C for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 22:17:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dt71@gmx.com) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8EA3E4 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 22:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.80] ([78.92.214.29]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M5HZD-1UFzGp1ABL-00zWEi for ; Fri, 24 May 2013 00:17:52 +0200 Message-ID: <519E9588.1080604@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 00:17:44 +0200 From: dt71@gmx.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> <519E47AD.6050706@gmx.com> <3B73691C-66D9-4930-AC29-4CCDDF1E6987@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3B73691C-66D9-4930-AC29-4CCDDF1E6987@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iaySgGHKVlWJ1zmaOZIoQebWVyVSRlVTysaMT0JwbllnDmH83CK FCGlMc8zUoMobXZM+QRdNEeR/BAImiJNzsp6z18DM9uuk9ltiJEbtz5zHMnIFSaEhK/19Ew u14lI7EavpK96IYtOYVK4nNMpeSptwftYK8LhXKflVSGiwvYnpfes1tjHcxy6/eP/+lwT0K VxbcRcEIrS1RL9TCTIucw== X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 22:17:59 -0000 On 05/23/2013 22:45, Mike Trewartha wrote: > This has already been discussed: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2012-December/006809.html Do you read? On 05/23/2013 10:51, dt71@gmx.com wrote: > Several months ago, the FreeBSD web master decided [...], without giving any response or respect to critics and concerns raised by the user community From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 24 01:03:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF3D8DE; Fri, 24 May 2013 01:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8F5C48; Fri, 24 May 2013 01:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Toshi.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13152; Thu, 23 May 2013 18:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201305240040.SAA13152@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 18:40:09 -0600 To: Jayton Garnett , dt71@gmx.com From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA In-Reply-To: References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: gjb@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Chat X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 01:03:48 -0000 At 02:55 AM 5/23/2013, Jayton Garnett wrote: >Does it really matter? Yes. A lot. FreeBSD should not facilitate violations of privacy or similar security risks. --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 24 02:45:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90A4E13; Fri, 24 May 2013 02:45:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f179.google.com (mail-pd0-f179.google.com [209.85.192.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F4CE; Fri, 24 May 2013 02:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f179.google.com with SMTP id q11so3587338pdj.24 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 19:45:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=70VwqvbXVHhLtJSlSilYxk/5CmIRx12GCUdd3Z/cOJc=; b=TO1pxUrxaGTW0X9PhD1djmAstrGgovX8i13/JKVXUOsXZ64nrF0RC2w00mB1s5IjSG R51OpbrMt7++RFbpEJ5YmR/LpBJNoWPqRFmv3AkqS7GtFL9U9qRegA7KsOv6cG3yvRUx heGlCC9+t1RbMAAlzKtpNbW4COr+80FdPHEArmj7jCGlm4+nSaZ9xTP4fGpZmdRjqI5c JzdBlXnZWihnuBdjPg+HNG7GGcsGwbfbnyNjn6JdOSjSDtYHVOmyT0Lb2vyRHO9/UWio NGEe+p0qFgRCAyxSckU3nHryiEtAATUPoueW3RGd4XzjmSftFi+xoknQYurCIZsGirmT bBtg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.151.46 with SMTP id un14mr16554527pab.14.1369363197304; Thu, 23 May 2013 19:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.157.163 with HTTP; Thu, 23 May 2013 19:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.157.163 with HTTP; Thu, 23 May 2013 19:39:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201305240040.SAA13152@lariat.net> References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> <201305240040.SAA13152@lariat.net> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 19:39:56 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA From: pete wright To: Brett Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: gjb@freebsd.org, Jayton Garnett , FreeBSD Chat , dt71@gmx.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 02:45:26 -0000 On May 23, 2013 6:04 PM, "Brett Glass" wrote: > > At 02:55 AM 5/23/2013, Jayton Garnett wrote: > >> Does it really matter? > > > Yes. A lot. FreeBSD should not facilitate violations of privacy or similar security risks. > So I assume you are working on and/or sponsoring code and infrastructure that matches GA? Otherwise can we please put this bike shed to rest. -pete From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 24 04:19:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87134E2D for ; Fri, 24 May 2013 04:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from khazar@gmx.us) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [74.208.4.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E5D836 for ; Fri, 24 May 2013 04:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com ([172.19.198.48]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmxus002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M6m1I-1UIRww33K8-00wUjz for ; Fri, 24 May 2013 06:19:02 +0200 Received: (qmail 25795 invoked by uid 0); 24 May 2013 04:19:02 -0000 Received: from 96.47.226.20 by rms-us015 with HTTP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 00:19:01 -0400 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAAZQTFRFtpi4 AAAAUERDAwAAAAF0Uk5TAEDm2GYAAAABYktHRACIBR1IAAAACXBIWXMAAA3XAAAN1wFCKJt4AAAA B3RJTUUH3AYXDToY1bs5DgAAAN5JREFUGNNjYCAGGECoGjAp/x9KPYBQf0CUzP9/QJLxR/0PEPXb /z5I8OD1+2A1X/cD1TAzpM8HqmH/kBYPFJT/YcQClLH/Lw0xZGbDBwaG+v/3G/4CqRMSNv8bGGos ///7f4BB+vH+59EKDIzzew83AI2u/zCH8QMDc139p8cfGJg+8EnfBPI+MB5veMLA/IdRiUGNgfGZ 4MQPbAyMD3/xJQA1HPj/cAqQOvz/Rz2Qen7/h/0BBsYHDDbyQFd8YBDhB1oPdDPbDAYGkEfsGBjq gBQf0BVgXzJCfEk0AADmBlPuoZRzIAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== From: "Genghis Khan" Message-ID: <20130524041902.108890@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <519DD877.7000808@gmx.com> <519E47AD.6050706@gmx.com> <3B73691C-66D9-4930-AC29-4CCDDF1E6987@gmail.com> RMID: #imap/GKH/INBOX 23003 3B73691C-66D9-4930-AC29-4CCDDF1E6987@gmail.com S: genghiskhan@gmx.ca SCF: #imap/GKH/Sent Subject: Re: "injunction" on the use of GA To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Claws-Account-Id: 5 X-Claws-Auto-Indent: 1 X-Claws-Auto-Wrapping: 1 X-Claws-Encrypt: 1 X-Claws-End-Special-Headers: 1 X-Claws-Manual-Headers: X-Claws-Privacy-System: pgpmime X-Claws-Sign: 0 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 X-GMX-UID: YY/sce1L3zOlOY2ciHIhEO9+IGRvb4Dh X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 04:19:03 -0000 On Fri, 24 May 2013 06:15:32 +0930 Mike Trewartha wrote: > This has already been discussed: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2012-December/006809.html I firmly agree with Brett Glass. 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