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[37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t44sm19717245eeo.2.2013.01.20.15.41.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:41:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 00:41:14 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: pkgng 1.1 beta best way to make people tests Message-ID: <20130120234114.GD782@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:41:27 -0000 --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, As a first mail on this list, I want to open a discussion on what would be the best way to handle the beta phase of pkgng in the ports tree. We are about to enter in a beta phase and we want to add the beta to the ports tree so that people can test it easily. We also want the users to keep having the 1.0 as default. We have 2 possibilities here: 1- add WITH_PKGNG_DEVEL=yes to the actual ports-mgmt/pkg port switching the 1.0 version to 1.1b1 a bit like WITH_NEW_XORG. bonus: really simple, can only be activated on purpose by the user. 2- add a ports-mgmt/pkg-devel with the new beta which will conflict with ports-mgmt/pkg. As a difficulty remember that the local.sqlite smoothly upgrade from 1.0 to 1.1 but cannot be switch backward. So far I plan a two month beta/rc phase for pkg 1.1 I think the code is quite as robust as the 1.0 branch is and should not bring too much surprises, of course, no date base release, it will be out when ready :) Regards, Bapt --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlD8gJoACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ez02QCgwCmf4Ova7P2EDAw7fggs0XwO THMAoILGBAdQh+oftWoZYoBQuINM16PD =mBv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --n2Pv11Ogg/Ox8ay5-- From owner-freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 21 07:35:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: pkg@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F935F8; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yerenkow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96783F9D; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id xn12so5514200obc.4 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:35:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tAzM6rM9SYD32YEf01/zkUW5JxQU3IybAwW/CoLbayQ=; b=oEoJyUSzu+28JWRJTNosRP3HrUNpYbIfRxJ7Wv36BMM3Omo2NAlU3aNDH0AUD5vPzk yp6wPsUONl6aeUXPjXWLVK1bLd4bslLTZpoe6qPBjq58eMxfGGzDCE1QSkMNM4JmiMFE WZES1acGnhHZeU6nFwbHT607GgE+705XgF17coo8xOHSymKJrvy4Rgv68tlU9+6KT8HC gE8i/r+ppRtpP9FU65PM0g75+7tBNSmZqu3tWOWM+Qnm4VPkMBE6x8M5EINOxoEI1LHg AH0rxyz9uYccaW/emaVzPWpiVr4seNOwks5oDdxPBjnohUhnHLcluppzzWJdFxgzZwje NltA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.117.5 with SMTP id ka5mr2337460obb.49.1358753707130; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.138.164 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:35:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130120234114.GD782@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20130120234114.GD782@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:35:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkgng 1.1 beta best way to make people tests From: Alexander Yerenkow To: Baptiste Daroussin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: pkg@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Binary package management and package tools discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:35:08 -0000 2013/1/21 Baptiste Daroussin > Hi all, > > As a first mail on this list, I want to open a discussion on what would be > the > best way to handle the beta phase of pkgng in the ports tree. > > We are about to enter in a beta phase and we want to add the beta to the > ports > tree so that people can test it easily. We also want the users to keep > having > the 1.0 as default. > > We have 2 possibilities here: > 1- add WITH_PKGNG_DEVEL=yes to the actual ports-mgmt/pkg port switching > the 1.0 > version to 1.1b1 a bit like WITH_NEW_XORG. bonus: really simple, can only > be > activated on purpose by the user. > > 2- add a ports-mgmt/pkg-devel with the new beta which will conflict with > ports-mgmt/pkg. > > As a difficulty remember that the local.sqlite smoothly upgrade from 1.0 > to 1.1 > but cannot be switch backward. > In any case, can we at least have some script/tool to convert 1.1 to 1.0 DB, while in beta? I think this approach could save lives. And with upcoming versions, ability to switch back to stable version would bring more testers. > > So far I plan a two month beta/rc phase for pkg 1.1 I think the code is > quite as > robust as the 1.0 branch is and should not bring too much surprises, of > course, > no date base release, it will be out when ready :) > > Regards, > Bapt > -- Regards, Alexander Yerenkow