From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 02:53:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 972D944A for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 02:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-245.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34BC52B1D for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 02:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2484 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 02:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-03.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.3) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 02:53:56 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-03.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13253 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 02:53:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 02:53:56 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.0.108] (ip98-160-185-241.lv.lv.cox.net [98.160.185.241]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A59401C439B; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:53:53 -0700 Message-Id: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> References: To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 02:53:59 -0000 First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's = (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier = to understand): > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >=20 > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >=20 > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. >=20 > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the = line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel The original messages were: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html and http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even though = /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. = And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will = not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get = back. All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE worked. = Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late April is = about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. = PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other = kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard wrote: This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation = (assuming it is the same problem in both places). I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = CD? A multi-processor one? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 06:33:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3B2CD79 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-245.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DB0E2B2E for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 22870 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 06:33:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-03.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.3) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 06:33:42 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-03.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 02:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19297 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 06:33:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 06:33:42 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.0.108] (ip98-160-185-241.lv.lv.cox.net [98.160.185.241]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1FF6D1C43B8; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:33:39 -0700 Message-Id: <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> References: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:33:46 -0000 To make clear about the "/" in the line: and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It = always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is = from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from = /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the = visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's = (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier = to understand): > For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >=20 > loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >=20 > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. >=20 > In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the = line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel The original messages were: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html and http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even though = /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. = And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will = not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get = back. All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE worked. = Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late April is = about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. = PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other = kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard wrote: This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to emulation = (assuming it is the same problem in both places). I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = CD? A multi-processor one? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 06:40:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FDADEF1 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [128.104.255.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18FF2B54 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CA1338091; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:40:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at icecube.wisc.edu Received: from i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 8XCWzv-uNqgu; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from comporellon.tachypleus.net (polaris.tachypleus.net [75.101.50.44]) by i3mail.icecube.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CDB2438090; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:40:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <53D49EDC.3050301@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:40:28 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Millard , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] References: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> In-Reply-To: <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:40:32 -0000 Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! -Nathan On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans > then gradually spin up. > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is > from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from > /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the > visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's > (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are > easier to understand): > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >> >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >> >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans >> then gradually spin up. >> >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > The original messages were: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. > And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I > will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I > get back. > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > wrote: > > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place > whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned > to a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've > not tried emulation. > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz > files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot > hangs very early in the process > > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned > to CD? A multi-processor one? > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 07:33:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BB1F9A7 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-245.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 868832F1B for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18225 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 07:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.2) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 07:33:06 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-02.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 03:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31495 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 07:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 07:33:05 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.0.108] (ip98-160-185-241.lv.lv.cox.net [98.160.185.241]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1FCBA1C4385; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Millard Message-Id: <27E2583C-FA8E-4F6E-83D1-C950318133C2@dsl-only.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:33:02 -0700 References: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> <53D49EDC.3050301@freebsd.org> To: Nathan Whitehorn , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <53D49EDC.3050301@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:33:08 -0000 You are welcome. You may run into another G5 (PowerPC64) problem that I've not reported = because I've so little evidence and it has been very intermittent. Also = it is a normal boot issue, not an installation-media specific issue. Normally one goes through open firmware and either types boot or one = lets it autoboot (explicit return or timed out) and the screen changes = to black and the white text starts to show up, starting with the = copyright notice. But some of the time on the G5's it instead hangs after going black but = before any part of the copyright text shows up. This has happened on all = 3 G5's, two being 7,11's (NVIDIA video) and one being a 7,2 (Radeon = video). The fans gradually wind up when this happens. (Unlikely if only = the video display was messed but it actually went through the normal = steps otherwise.) I've had a wild mix: At times I've gone bunches of boots without the = problem. On rare occasion I've had to reboot up to a dozen times to = finally not have it hang. Normally once the problem happens I have to = retry at most a few times. [I do not have access to a single-processor PowerMac G5 system. So I can = not compare/contrast behavior with those. All my PowerMac G5 notes are = multi-processor G5 notes.] =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi at dsl-only.net On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Nathan Whitehorn = wrote: Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a 10.0-STABLE = image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. What really = perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders are identical, = since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super weird. I'll try to = get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and reminder! -Nathan On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 > To make clear about the "/" in the line: >=20 > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. >=20 > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It = always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that is = from the repeating sequence or is the leading / from = /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting just the = visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's = (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are easier = to understand): >=20 >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >>=20 >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >>=20 >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The fans = then gradually spin up. >>=20 >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the = line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel >=20 > The original messages were: >=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > and > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html >=20 > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even = though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. >=20 >=20 >=20 > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything yet. = And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks so I will = not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try once I get = back. >=20 > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE = worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: Late = April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. >=20 > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. = PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have other = kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard wrote: >=20 > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to = emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). >=20 > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same way/place = whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to = a CD. I was able to boot 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not = tried emulation. >=20 > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST and .txz = files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not = buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. >=20 > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were = reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) >=20 > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) boot = hangs very early in the process >=20 > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso burned = to CD? A multi-processor one? >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 16:45:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6BA33883; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x22c.google.com (mail-yk0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 194FC2C68; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 10so4118764ykt.17 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T5X46N2EEcC+ySwiKyrIlFlLgYiLxVGBdxmnVH83y/Y=; b=OInLySMeFiiF83Mzge+gd5TcpdhH3iTpMLpPcbbx7E94f+9wE6Z6DR4FZJnYUOA8fs ciRlRyDai55RQOZQSRMFHZ2tHOLscMA9RNqeO36DPGz8YOg97UGogo0+K7h/WDPtLreR MHdMENUBwvwqlMFoDEnvHiDnljo6achBuRlFh8+Xlt5EboG3BqKJZff9kfeS/Ab/oWQB LmsobSvtV00zsCxSDHlLkfz4Cm7P00TwHJfpC2OYL2SIumfFfgmv9DfrxM4E5B5orqT2 vhU7xV1e0D6AuxdaT+chrpr++GbBRgPOvworIFHoIiGZna+pm3x06Pfq4YwRVe5Lytqv ewZg== X-Received: by 10.236.0.200 with SMTP id 48mr44460520yhb.72.1406479503142; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zhabar.att.net (107-222-186-3.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. 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[.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] Message-ID: <20140727094457.4827b851@zhabar.att.net> In-Reply-To: <27E2583C-FA8E-4F6E-83D1-C950318133C2@dsl-only.net> References: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> <53D49EDC.3050301@freebsd.org> <27E2583C-FA8E-4F6E-83D1-C950318133C2@dsl-only.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:45:04 -0000 Hi Mark, Just a guess, but you probably have more than 4GB RAM in those machines, right? If so, then you hit the same problem I've encountered on my G5, which has 12GB RAM. Nathan and I both speculate that it's dropping into Open Firmware (we make extensive use of OFW), and then messing something up, taking a page fault or something. Off and on we're working on the problem, taking the solution that Linux and Darwin use, to cache all the OFW properties while in the loader, and hand this off to the kernel (in our case, we'd format it as FDT). If you have a debug kernel, you would see "KDB: Supported backend...." and then it would hang. - Justin On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:33:02 -0700 Mark Millard wrote: > You are welcome. > > You may run into another G5 (PowerPC64) problem that I've not > reported because I've so little evidence and it has been very > intermittent. Also it is a normal boot issue, not an > installation-media specific issue. > > Normally one goes through open firmware and either types boot or one > lets it autoboot (explicit return or timed out) and the screen > changes to black and the white text starts to show up, starting with > the copyright notice. > > But some of the time on the G5's it instead hangs after going black > but before any part of the copyright text shows up. This has happened > on all 3 G5's, two being 7,11's (NVIDIA video) and one being a 7,2 > (Radeon video). The fans gradually wind up when this happens. > (Unlikely if only the video display was messed but it actually went > through the normal steps otherwise.) > > I've had a wild mix: At times I've gone bunches of boots without the > problem. On rare occasion I've had to reboot up to a dozen times to > finally not have it hang. Normally once the problem happens I have to > retry at most a few times. > > [I do not have access to a single-processor PowerMac G5 system. So I > can not compare/contrast behavior with those. All my PowerMac G5 > notes are multi-processor G5 notes.] > > > > > === > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: > > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > reminder! -Nathan > > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: > > > > To make clear about the "/" in the line: > > > > and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > > fans then gradually spin up. > > > > This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It > > always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that > > is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / > > from /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting > > just the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. > > > > === > > Mark Millard > > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard > > wrote: > > > > First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's > > (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are > > easier to understand): > > > >> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying > >> > >> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > >> > >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The > >> fans then gradually spin up. > >> > >> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the > >> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel > > > > The original messages were: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html > > and > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html > > > > Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even > > though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. > > > > > > > > As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything > > yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks > > so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try > > once I get back. > > > > All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE > > worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: > > Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. > > > > Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. > > PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have > > other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) > > > > > > > > === > > Mark Millard > > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard > > wrote: > > > > This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to > > emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). > > > > I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same > > way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 > > 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot > > 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. > > > > Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST > > and .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not > > buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. > > > > My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were > > reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) > > > > FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) > > boot hangs very early in the process > > > > Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso > > burned to CD? A multi-processor one? > > > > === > > Mark Millard > > markmi at dsl-only.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 19:24:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17933423 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asp.reflexion.net (outbound-245.asp.reflexion.net [69.84.129.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94F472ABC for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2156 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 19:24:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail-cs-04.app.dca.reflexion.local) (10.81.19.4) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 19:24:27 -0000 Received: by mail-cs-04.app.dca.reflexion.local (Reflexion email security v7.30.6) with SMTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18170 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2014 19:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO iron2.pdx.net) (69.64.224.71) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 27 Jul 2014 19:24:26 -0000 X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network X-No-Relay: not in my network Received: from [192.168.0.108] (ip98-160-185-241.lv.lv.cox.net [98.160.185.241]) by iron2.pdx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B07B1C4388; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Running FreeBSD-ppc/ppc64 on emulators? [.iso based CD boot problems exist for PowerMac G5's too] From: Mark Millard In-Reply-To: <20140727094457.4827b851@zhabar.att.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:24:23 -0700 Message-Id: <96A3A9F6-EB28-47CD-A3EF-903704DFF3FE@dsl-only.net> References: <9104D42E-5A30-49AF-B5B8-F2C97090802F@dsl-only.net> <0E217B0D-233B-4698-B482-75C3BFE66638@dsl-only.net> <53D49EDC.3050301@freebsd.org> <27E2583C-FA8E-4F6E-83D1-C950318133C2@dsl-only.net> <20140727094457.4827b851@zhabar.att.net> To: Justin Hibbits , freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:24:30 -0000 Hi Justin. The 3 G5 contexts that I've been using are: 8GB dual = single-core-processor, 12GB two dual-core processors (quad), 16 GB two = dual-core processors (quad). So "yes" for the amount of RAM being > 4GB = where I've seen the problem. I've not been running anything but the default pre-built kernels = --installed by some 10.0-STABLE build primarily. (Otherwise = 9.2-STABLE/early-9.3 or 10.0-RELEASE.) And I'm away from the PowerMac's = for weeks and so will not be trying any variations for some time. While I have done buildworld and buildkernel (without making any = changes) I've yet to try installing the result. Side note: As I remember one of the things that Mac OS X 10.5 does (so probably = Darwin too?) is to write some failure/traceback information into NVRAM = and if it later boots okay it notices the updated NVRAM log contents, = extracts the failure log information, and then presents the option to = see it and/or send it in. (Not that Apple cares about sending such in = any more.) It seems to have been their one public hook for getting = information from time frames where nothing at-the-time would display = about a crash that occurred while also not needing general writable = media to be in operation at the time: NVRAM is always present. But I'm = not sure just how early Mac OS X starts using this technique of storing = away such information for later extraction. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard markmi@dsl-only.net On Jul 27, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Justin Hibbits = wrote: Hi Mark, Just a guess, but you probably have more than 4GB RAM in those machines, right? If so, then you hit the same problem I've encountered on my G5, which has 12GB RAM. Nathan and I both speculate that it's dropping into Open Firmware (we make extensive use of OFW), and then messing something up, taking a page fault or something. Off and on we're working on the problem, taking the solution that Linux and Darwin use, to cache all the OFW properties while in the loader, and hand this off to the kernel (in our case, we'd format it as FDT). If you have a debug kernel, you would see "KDB: Supported backend...." and then it would hang. - Justin On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:33:02 -0700 Mark Millard wrote: > You are welcome. >=20 > You may run into another G5 (PowerPC64) problem that I've not > reported because I've so little evidence and it has been very > intermittent. Also it is a normal boot issue, not an > installation-media specific issue. >=20 > Normally one goes through open firmware and either types boot or one > lets it autoboot (explicit return or timed out) and the screen > changes to black and the white text starts to show up, starting with > the copyright notice. >=20 > But some of the time on the G5's it instead hangs after going black > but before any part of the copyright text shows up. This has happened > on all 3 G5's, two being 7,11's (NVIDIA video) and one being a 7,2 > (Radeon video). The fans gradually wind up when this happens. > (Unlikely if only the video display was messed but it actually went > through the normal steps otherwise.) >=20 > I've had a wild mix: At times I've gone bunches of boots without the > problem. On rare occasion I've had to reboot up to a dozen times to > finally not have it hang. Normally once the problem happens I have to > retry at most a few times. >=20 > [I do not have access to a single-processor PowerMac G5 system. So I > can not compare/contrast behavior with those. All my PowerMac G5 > notes are multi-processor G5 notes.] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D > Mark Millard > markmi at dsl-only.net >=20 > On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:40 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: >=20 > Interesting. It seems loader is broken. I just tried with a > 10.0-STABLE image and can reproduce the problem -- 11 oddly is OK. > What really perplexes me is that the powerpc and powerpc64 loaders > are identical, since loader is built 32-bit in either case. Super > weird. I'll try to get it fixed. Thanks for the problem report and > reminder! -Nathan >=20 > On 07/26/14 23:33, Mark Millard wrote: >>=20 >> To make clear about the "/" in the line: >>=20 >> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The >> fans then gradually spin up. >>=20 >> This "progress indicator" is the repeating sequence -, \, |, /. It >> always stopped with / as I remember. But I've no clue for if that >> is from the repeating sequence or is the leading / >> from /boot/kernel/kernel. At this point I'm limited to reporting >> just the visual result, not the internal stage it is tied to. >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Mark Millard >> wrote: >>=20 >> First I quote what I wrote about when the hangups occur on the G5's >> (combining quotes from the two messages so the overall notes are >> easier to understand): >>=20 >>> For a C-key style boot it hangs shortly after displaying >>>=20 >>> loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf >>>=20 >>> and stops while displaying "/" from its progress indicator. The >>> fans then gradually spin up. >>>=20 >>> In other words: It hangs just before it would normally display the >>> line that includes the text: /boot/kernel/kernel >>=20 >> The original messages were: >>=20 >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007029.html >> and >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2014-June/007056.html >>=20 >> Even the /b prefix from /boot/kernel/kernel did not show up even >> though /boot/defaults/loader.conf did show up just fine. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> As for trying 11-CURRENT: I've not tried 11-CURRENT for anything >> yet. And, unfortunately, I'm now away from the PowerMacs for weeks >> so I will not be doing new experiments for several weeks. I can try >> once I get back. >>=20 >> All the 9.2/9.3-STABLE's that I tried worked. And 10.0-RELELASE >> worked. Any 10.0-STABLE from before about Apr-27 I've never tried: >> Late April is about when I started the experiments with PowerMacs. >>=20 >> Also: I had no troubles with 10.0-STABLE for powerpc on PowerMacs. >> PowerPC64 on PowerMac G5's is where I had problems. (I do not have >> other kinds of PowerPC equipment available.) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Mark Millard >> wrote: >>=20 >> This boot issue from .iso's (burned to CDs) is not specific to >> emulation (assuming it is the same problem in both places). >>=20 >> I'm afraid that it sounds like PowerMac G5's hang the same >> way/place whenever I've tried a fairly modern PowerPC64 >> 10.0-STABLE .iso burned to a CD. I was able to boot >> 10.0-RELEASE's .iso burned to a CD. I've not tried emulation. >>=20 >> Having an initial FreeBSD running I tend to use the MANIFEST >> and .txz files with "bsdinstall auto" to make new from-scratch (not >> buildworld/buildkernel) installations when I want such. >>=20 >> My notes on the G5 boot issue for the .iso's burned to CD's were >> reported in: (I'm not near the PowerMacs, unfortunately) >>=20 >> FreeBSD 10-STABLE powerpc64 r266807 CD PowerMac7, 2 (and 7, 11) >> boot hangs very early in the process >>=20 >> Has anyone booted a G5 PowerMac from a recent 10.0-STABLE .iso >> burned to CD? A multi-processor one? >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D >> Mark Millard >> markmi at dsl-only.net >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 15:35:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3AEAA40 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9F02930 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XBmws-0005x0-Kk for powerpc@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:34:56 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s6SFa57P045279 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:36:15 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id s6SFa00Y045274 for powerpc@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:36:00 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:35:59 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: powerpc@freebsd.org Subject: Manual fan control on iBook G4? Message-ID: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 64534 [Jul 28 2014] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.3 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3038460, 3038498, 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2014/07/28 13:31:38 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:35:06 -0000 Hi there, I've digged out that old pity iBook G4 of mine (should be something like PowerBook6,5 I guess) that had been hanging under Tiger within few minutes after boot and installed FreeBSD on it. Surprisingly, it works fine under it. :) I'm suspecting either a faulty harddrive, or non-working fan. So far no matter what heavy port I build, fan does not kick it. Does FreeBSD support fan control on this baby? How can I manually engage it to see if it works? (I've tested that power line has +5V, but don't know how can I PWM control it from command line. Is it PWM, in fact? -- just guessing since there are four wires coming into it.) Another weird thing: CPU frequency per dmesg(8) is strangely low: $ grep cpu0 /var/run/dmesg.boot cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7447A revision 1.1, 535.22 MHz cpu0: Features 9c000000 while per various websites, 7447A CPU on it should clock at at least 1GHz. Any clues? How can I read Mac model from NVRAM (akin to what Mac OS X provides via `hw.model' sysctl, or something like that)? Thanks. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 15:51:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE3A315E for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-x230.google.com (mail-oa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98F772B21 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m1so8807783oag.7 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fD+cDegeTCgjDq64IOb8vtaCbOWbPjiJBKTStJtexFo=; b=CgfE9yVdnHATiJ+bObS0XwjBJbFTQRizRp0TZogiGRkx6S1CiDf69ubeqDqP8op5wH cSySIeJvwtJKwbNJuVe9JQ0TY510RZiePJPaBppUveDHFRDebFGngsvWopjCkgke9UX0 kA+BtUdtfxm+aeZtkEx2Zo/HRQcza9bBQLhgqlABmtf/ly7yY0ogkqDxfkoUEL2HhGJ4 6O2AMkVRM6l8XIim5Efdshvv/YQCgivDd1OxiDm55/MUtLyWXZjAeRc34fIFVtkjFGFJ OmnwMpXg/KMLh9km2nZKDlsFvMIf13EJMUgyeXwkTev+gUU4IF0RXpf/amLnai4vSxqS RKtA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.113.199 with SMTP id ja7mr37439925obb.74.1406562688605; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.126.210 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:51:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? From: Britt Dodd To: Alexey Dokuchaev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:51:29 -0000 On Linux, there's a module called pmu_battery that you have to load in order to get things working like the battery life (and percentage), fan control, etc. I presume that it would be similar in BSD. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > Hi there, > > I've digged out that old pity iBook G4 of mine (should be something like > PowerBook6,5 I guess) that had been hanging under Tiger within few minutes > after boot and installed FreeBSD on it. Surprisingly, it works fine under > it. :) > > I'm suspecting either a faulty harddrive, or non-working fan. So far no > matter what heavy port I build, fan does not kick it. Does FreeBSD support > fan control on this baby? How can I manually engage it to see if it works? > (I've tested that power line has +5V, but don't know how can I PWM control > it from command line. Is it PWM, in fact? -- just guessing since there are > four wires coming into it.) > > Another weird thing: CPU frequency per dmesg(8) is strangely low: > > $ grep cpu0 /var/run/dmesg.boot > cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7447A revision 1.1, 535.22 MHz > cpu0: Features 9c000000 > > while per various websites, 7447A CPU on it should clock at at least 1GHz. > > Any clues? How can I read Mac model from NVRAM (akin to what Mac OS X > provides via `hw.model' sysctl, or something like that)? Thanks. > > ./danfe > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 16:02:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06B8FAF5 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yk0-x229.google.com (mail-yk0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDC7D2CED for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yk0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 131so4833420ykp.0 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q0WgHcjbytZs4+mQyLzJXlFiK2JbINiIpiWGQyUvllc=; b=VNzfAA0/Rh8cwunyOmDgYgviMMz5a9rgIsEwoI6/68a8C9iAMNBDmZ8XFC8kUhQucO Wk/WddrAmbYsI7wjfUknYDhF/uWi7z+vPIF/NkLwlcxNjDf7FCnD8OryobGxBnhPFChU UzKkGZWBSS+FgbOLue8FYpxWyil1VuCZZOhlPLxI4PhK3HA6Rl1xkQq/juh0zLvIajfx lIjtdhDTcDq2ke7wQZxbBL+XICcuL3QPasxZ03Zk4cvPgHIZHBR+/vNcnDkpDRigh/KE nuvLldjz2vDc23lEM0l1GJNj7MET3CoWkO6RkOFWUAdy/Thby30ns9Lrokj3sc1cH6OZ 5U8Q== X-Received: by 10.236.99.39 with SMTP id w27mr13655108yhf.109.1406563370961; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zhabar.att.net (107-222-186-3.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.222.186.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g25sm38274074yhc.25.2014.07.28.09.02.48 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:02:45 -0700 From: Justin Hibbits To: Alexey Dokuchaev Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? Message-ID: <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> In-Reply-To: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:02:52 -0000 On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:35:59 +0700 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > Hi there, > > I've digged out that old pity iBook G4 of mine (should be something > like PowerBook6,5 I guess) that had been hanging under Tiger within > few minutes after boot and installed FreeBSD on it. Surprisingly, it > works fine under it. :) > > I'm suspecting either a faulty harddrive, or non-working fan. So far > no matter what heavy port I build, fan does not kick it. Does > FreeBSD support fan control on this baby? How can I manually engage > it to see if it works? (I've tested that power line has +5V, but > don't know how can I PWM control it from command line. Is it PWM, in > fact? -- just guessing since there are four wires coming into it.) > > Another weird thing: CPU frequency per dmesg(8) is strangely low: > > $ grep cpu0 /var/run/dmesg.boot > cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7447A revision 1.1, 535.22 MHz > cpu0: Features 9c000000 > > while per various websites, 7447A CPU on it should clock at at least > 1GHz. > > Any clues? How can I read Mac model from NVRAM (akin to what Mac OS X > provides via `hw.model' sysctl, or something like that)? Thanks. > > ./danfe If you do 'ofwdump -ap', it'll list everything from Open Firmware, including the fan data (likely i2c-based, look for adm* or adt*). It's possible the CPU is starting in the reduced clock speed, so you can check `dev.cpu' syctl to see what levels are supported. - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 16:15:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41039195 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDE372F32 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XBna1-0001ZK-NQ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:15:23 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s6SGGR2u052680; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:16:37 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id s6SGGMEU052611; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:16:22 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:16:22 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? Message-ID: <20140728161622.GA51464@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 64537 [Jul 28 2014] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.3 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3038530, 3038543, 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2014/07/28 13:31:38 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:15:25 -0000 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 09:02:45AM -0700, Justin Hibbits wrote: > If you do 'ofwdump -ap', it'll list everything from Open Firmware, > including the fan data (likely i2c-based, look for adm* or adt*). Right, thanks for the hint! Some interesting data: 1) It is indeed PowerBook6,5 model 2) Fan data (it was adt*): Node 0xff963c08: fan name: 66 61 6e 00 'fan' device_type: 61 64 74 37 34 36 37 00 'adt7467' compatible: 61 64 74 37 34 36 37 00 'adt7467' ... Node 0xff964910: fan1 name: 66 61 6e 31 00 'fan1' reg: 00 00 00 28 sensor-id: 00 00 00 20 version: 00 00 00 02 ... > It's possible the CPU is starting in the reduced clock speed, so you > can check `dev.cpu' syctl to see what levels are supported. Again, seems you're correct: dev.cpu.0.%desc: Open Firmware CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: name=PowerPC,G4 dev.cpu.0.%parent: cpulist0 dev.cpu.0.freq: 533 dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1066/-1 533/-1 ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 28 17:01:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9992F396 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 17:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 807C12528 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 17:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aurora.physics.berkeley.edu (aurora.Physics.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.117.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s6SH1FDO010119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:01:15 -0700 Message-ID: <53D681DA.7040104@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:01:14 -0700 From: Nathan Whitehorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev , Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> <20140728161622.GA51464@regency.nsu.ru> In-Reply-To: <20140728161622.GA51464@regency.nsu.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVa+Tj1d0yGhsrGu3/3pFRq+dxzQlvPUa5fp1bmsBMYJmqmQfcVuIN9eqgx8kysY1S9H7dVSmV85DuSPd+TtaS04it2MOqBgxX8= X-Sonic-ID: C;MunxyHgW5BG7vBDl54E5FQ== M;mCMayXgW5BG7vBDl54E5FQ== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 17:01:23 -0000 On 07/28/14 09:16, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 09:02:45AM -0700, Justin Hibbits wrote: >> If you do 'ofwdump -ap', it'll list everything from Open Firmware, >> including the fan data (likely i2c-based, look for adm* or adt*). > Right, thanks for the hint! Some interesting data: > > 1) It is indeed PowerBook6,5 model > 2) Fan data (it was adt*): > > Node 0xff963c08: fan > name: > 66 61 6e 00 > 'fan' > device_type: > 61 64 74 37 34 36 37 00 > 'adt7467' > compatible: > 61 64 74 37 34 36 37 00 > 'adt7467' > ... > Node 0xff964910: fan1 > name: > 66 61 6e 31 00 > 'fan1' > reg: > 00 00 00 28 > sensor-id: > 00 00 00 20 > version: > 00 00 00 02 > ... > >> It's possible the CPU is starting in the reduced clock speed, so you >> can check `dev.cpu' syctl to see what levels are supported. > Again, seems you're correct: > > dev.cpu.0.%desc: Open Firmware CPU > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: name=PowerPC,G4 > dev.cpu.0.%parent: cpulist0 > dev.cpu.0.freq: 533 > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1066/-1 533/-1 To be very explicit on this last point, doing sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq=1066 (or enabling powerd) will give you your full 1 GHz. -Nathan From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 06:35:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 778AFC53; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:35:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EBE62C9F; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XC10C-0008Jv-9T; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:35:17 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s6T6aOdZ015352; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:36:34 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id s6T6aJUC015351; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:36:19 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:36:19 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? Message-ID: <20140729063619.GA14398@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> <20140728161622.GA51464@regency.nsu.ru> <53D681DA.7040104@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53D681DA.7040104@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 64557 [Jul 29 2014] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.3 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3039256, 3039280, 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2014/07/28 13:31:38 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org, Justin Hibbits X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:35:23 -0000 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:01:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 07/28/14 09:16, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > >Again, seems you're correct: > > > > dev.cpu.0.%desc: Open Firmware CPU > > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: name=PowerPC,G4 > > dev.cpu.0.%parent: cpulist0 > > dev.cpu.0.freq: 533 > > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1066/-1 533/-1 > > To be very explicit on this last point, doing sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq=1066 > (or enabling powerd) will give you your full 1 GHz. Yes, it did. I forgot that powerd(8) is actually not enabled by default. The question about fan controlling, however, remains. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 06:45:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A88FCDB; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x22b.google.com (mail-yh0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CEB42D55; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 29so5509384yhl.30 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:45:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LKxVeVbJEk9jUq6QKS3OlAu/gapguox3OWdDGvKXKUQ=; b=ONXjG+O+Ow4xtQGTVIToAlt0ZX7b9Uk4axlWMWR7loDKq4pYD/VY++C+TNxD2qYdhn nOl+UFzwy6Nxlf3GoxqBWTCWP9o3ZJOyn42107Eu1izj3M7k4asK7V1Q1sobch+bmxFG sHLYCZyg90BVHf8LqGU36RL8JKBvoT4Ciqsni22LwxwZdN1rZNqfpG+QJQ25OTrGDDI4 XFZmD/75Z76kAPVBBwogwIMtJ5K6zeZgfCIsZ6kdVAI/o5fYP3cj7Q3CWTPRp7qYaFmY gwx28a+mD0fNQRdynnqmZHTZbslc9v2Wmcdetfmw/risSEmExHIYj/r0e/KuXjKllZ3v Ya5w== X-Received: by 10.236.112.167 with SMTP id y27mr213608yhg.60.1406616317226; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zhabar.att.net (107-222-186-3.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.222.186.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e10sm41611263yhh.40.2014.07.28.23.45.16 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 23:45:13 -0700 From: Justin Hibbits To: Alexey Dokuchaev Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? Message-ID: <20140728234513.12fcc7e9@zhabar.att.net> In-Reply-To: <20140729063619.GA14398@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> <20140728161622.GA51464@regency.nsu.ru> <53D681DA.7040104@freebsd.org> <20140729063619.GA14398@regency.nsu.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; powerpc64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:45:18 -0000 On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:36:19 +0700 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:01:14AM -0700, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > On 07/28/14 09:16, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > >Again, seems you're correct: > > > > > > dev.cpu.0.%desc: Open Firmware CPU > > > dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu > > > dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: name=PowerPC,G4 > > > dev.cpu.0.%parent: cpulist0 > > > dev.cpu.0.freq: 533 > > > dev.cpu.0.freq_levels: 1066/-1 533/-1 > > > > To be very explicit on this last point, doing sysctl > > dev.cpu.0.freq=1066 (or enabling powerd) will give you your full 1 > > GHz. > > Yes, it did. I forgot that powerd(8) is actually not enabled by > default. The question about fan controlling, however, remains. > > ./danfe The fan should be controlled automatically. If you want manual control you can set sysctl machdep.manage_fans=0 and manage the fans with dev.adt746x.* . Since the machine doesn't get very warm, chances are you may never hear them. - Justin From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 06:53:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: powerpc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86962D95; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [84.237.50.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D0222EFA; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XC1HW-000835-Ff; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:53:12 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s6T6sI8e020350; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:54:28 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id s6T6sDRL020346; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:54:13 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 13:54:13 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: Manual fan control on iBook G4? Message-ID: <20140729065413.GB15759@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20140728153559.GA41604@regency.nsu.ru> <20140728090245.13062177@zhabar.att.net> <20140728161622.GA51464@regency.nsu.ru> <53D681DA.7040104@freebsd.org> <20140729063619.GA14398@regency.nsu.ru> <20140728234513.12fcc7e9@zhabar.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140728234513.12fcc7e9@zhabar.att.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Lua-Profiles: 64559 [Jul 29 2014] X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Version: 5.5.3 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Envelope-From: danfe@regency.nsu.ru X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Rate: 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not_detected X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Method: none X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Moebius-Timestamps: 3039278, 3039304, 0 X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: scan successful X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: Clean, 2014/07/28 13:31:38 X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.705, not scanned, license restriction Cc: powerpc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 06:53:14 -0000 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:45:13PM -0700, Justin Hibbits wrote: > The fan should be controlled automatically. If you want manual control > you can set sysctl machdep.manage_fans=0 and manage the fans with > dev.adt746x.* . Since the machine doesn't get very warm, chances are you > may never hear them. Thanks, I'll try that. I do not mistrust automatic fan control; I just want to ensure that fan is not dirty (jammed) or broken; hence I needed a way to force fan and see how it goes. Once I rule out fan as a reason for these lock-ups I see in Tiger, I'll be happy with normal fan management. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 23:37:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E940724B for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::16:76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D111F266C for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bugs.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.118]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s6TNbEh2092390 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:37:14 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 131548] ofw_syscons no longer supports 32-bit framebuffer Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:37:15 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: powerpc X-Bugzilla-Version: 8.0-CURRENT X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: nwhitehorn@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Issue Resolved X-Bugzilla-Priority: Normal X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: --- X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: bug_status cc resolution Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 23:37:15 -0000 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=131548 Nathan Whitehorn changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|In Discussion |Issue Resolved CC| |nwhitehorn@FreeBSD.org Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #1 from Nathan Whitehorn --- Fixed in r269278. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. 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