From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Tue Aug 4 17:10:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1A19B37F2; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B36AD698; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t74HAqTs030516 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id t74HApLg030515; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:10:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 10:10:51 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Hans Petter Selasky Cc: Ed Schouten , Bruce Evans , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r286170 - head/share/man/man9 Message-ID: <20150804171051.GL78154@funkthat.com> References: <201508020022.t720MFqp023071@repo.freebsd.org> <20150802145434.V1128@besplex.bde.org> <55C09869.2040605@selasky.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55C09869.2040605@selasky.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Aug 2015 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:10:53 -0000 Hans Petter Selasky wrote this message on Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 12:48 +0200: > My gut feeling is it's good practice to have those wrapper macros > because they isolate the compiler into a consistent and coherent API. Except that we now have a consistent and coherent API w/ _Static_assert... We emulate this function on all compilers (or at least try to, see bde's other email about issues w/ the ifdef mess), and is available to both userland and kernel... It will also be available on other platforms, as opposed to having to port our CTASSERT macros to other platforms and introduce #ifdef's to make it compatible... > Wouldn't the argument be the same for queue.3 . Once C-compilers finally > decide to compile time support queues, we should throw queue.3 aswell? > I'd say it is better to stay independent of what the compiler guys will > come up with next, reminding me how hard it was to upgrade a machine > recently from 9- to 10- because of C++11 .... Last I checked, they don't change their API's ever revision of the langauge... Comparing this to C++11? Just wow, see above how this is properly covered by the ifdef mess in sys/cdefs.h for all compilers, this won't introduce any complications like the C++11... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."