From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 29 22:11:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: www@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4426316A40F; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF6343D46; Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:11:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC64210E530; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:11:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5xNt6Vi6MbDs; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:11:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from danger.mcrn.sk (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B07A10E517; Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:11:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 00:11:47 +0200 From: Daniel Gerzo Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1152359325.20060930001147@rulez.sk> To: www@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: glebius@FreeBSD.org Subject: Discussion: FreeBSD.org search engine X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:11:50 -0000 Hello dear subscribers, it has been already few times discussed that our current search implementation, even despite of some work done to get the issues fixed, does not work quite ideal and that we should switch to some other search engine out there. It has been proposed to use either google.com or yahoo.com searchers, but neither of these two were picked up, either because of political, technical or some other reasons that I'm not going to describe in this email. What I want to bring to the discussion is a pretty nice service that is currently hosted at (IIRC) the second biggest russian search company, Rambler. It is currently available through http://freebsd.rambler.ru/ and provides fairly sophisticated FreeBSD mailing list search. I have already contacted glebius@ who works at Rambler (and he is not the only FreeBSD committer working there) and it seems like Rambler would like to support FreeBSD with their search engine. One of the problems that has been revealed is that Rambler is currently missing English help. On the other hand, glebius@ has already called Russian committers for help and there are at least 3-4 of them willing to help with translation to English. The other thing might be that the Rambler search engine binary must not be leaked; that means if Rambler provided the binary to us in any possible way, it will certainly not be available for everyone of us. Currently, we are not aware of way to make Rambler to search in more specific mailing lists, say freebsd-doc and freebsd-www; only in one at the moment. It is essential to be able to limit search queries to more maling lists and glebius@ is quiet sure that will not be a problem at all. He also noted, that the Rambler developer will add any additional functionality that would be needed. I have also asked, if it is possible to search FreeBSD.org web site with Rambler. I have been told, that currently that is not the case, but the code is prepared. It just needs to be enabled to index the pages. Now, what I would like to hear from you guys is, what do you think about Rambler -- do you like the idea? What do you see as a requirement for us to be able to switch to Rambler? Reasons that would prevent us to take a step forward and improve our web and mailing list search? -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org