From owner-freebsd-current Sun Feb 22 16:13:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08905 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08896 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:13:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA12403; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:50:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:50:31 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Greg Lehey cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nate Williams , Terry Lambert , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More breakage in -current as a result of header frobbing. In-Reply-To: <19980223084422.20994@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sun, 22 February 1998 at 10:31:35 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Nate Williams wrote: > >> We can't have it both ways. Either we have an *enforced* policy of > >> actually punishing offenders (which may offend them and cause them to > >> run away), or we don't have any policy at all and so claiming to have > > > > I'd rather not have a policy based on punishment. We're supposed to > > be doing this for fun and the joy of making a good OS, and hitting > > people with sticks is not conducive to that. > > Agreed. But a policy based on punishement isn't the same thing as a > policy which includes punishment in exceptional circumstances. I think Jordan and Greg both have points they are correct about. What about making a web page that the offender gets put on ... nothing incredibly horrible, just a rogues gallery (I broke current on 00/00/00 with a commit to " ... ". You figure that the list is pretty quickly going to get some names on it, so it won't be so embarrassing as to turn people off, but most people wouldn't want to show up on it, so they'd avoid doing things to get themselves so honored. Folks like John Dyson would show up a lot ... most of us know why that'd be, and I _wouldn't_ want to unduly embarrass John ... but if John could take it as sort of a left-handed compliment, it'd probably be a real deterrent to most of the rest of us. Think of it as minimal punishment. If it turns out to be too negative, a little editing of the web page could either soften (or harden) the impact, as needed. I don't want to be as drastic as I think Greg is proposing, but I think ignoring it isn't probably the best way to go either. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message