From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 16 11:31:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE2116A4CE for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:31:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05E6F43D62 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 31455 invoked by uid 65534); 16 Oct 2004 11:31:18 -0000 Received: from pD95D8E6D.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO lofi.dyndns.org) (217.93.142.109) by mail.gmx.net (mp005) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2004 13:31:18 +0200 X-Authenticated: #443188 Received: from kiste.my.domain (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9GBVgxT016382 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:31:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Erik Trulsson Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 13:31:00 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200410152156.16113.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <20041016015034.GA92507@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20041016015034.GA92507@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5602830.rAF6WM11gQ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200410161331.01356.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new cc: Gary Jennejohn cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alternative options for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 11:31:21 -0000 --nextPart5602830.rAF6WM11gQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 16 October 2004 03:50, Erik Trulsson wrote: > I don't know what Debian does or does not do, but I don't need to know > that to tell you again that adding a million slave-ports is not > realistic and that anybody who seriously suggests that must be out of > his or her mind. (Yes, I did mean "a million extra slave-ports" > literally, and was not employing hyperbole.) I have no idea how you're arriving at the number of a million slave ports. = I=20 have no idea how you could think I was suggesting adding a million slave=20 ports (however one would achieve that, I have no idea) either. > (Hint: Currently there on the order of 10000 ports. Adding a million > extra ports would increase the size of the ports collection > hundredfold, and the package building would probably not be able to > finish until it is time to start over again for the next release. > That million slave-ports is just what would be needed for > multimedia/mplayer. That's utter nonsense. The easiest way of providing a good package for a po= rt=20 is: Turn as many optional features/build-switches on by default. In some=20 cases, turning something on isn't desirable because it adds too many=20 dependencies to a package which people would not usually want. For _those_= =20 cases, it is a good idea to investigate if slave ports can be made so the=20 features are available to package users immediately. If that's not possible= ,=20 tough luck - at least for the moment, because a good port maintainer would= =20 then go and try to nudge upstream development into making the application=20 modular enough to make it possible in the future. > I view the building from source as the primary purpose of the ports > system, with the creation of binary packages as just a nice bonus. With all due respect for your view, but that's just not true. =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart5602830.rAF6WM11gQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.9.10 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBcQZ1Xhc68WspdLARApaMAKCrVS5Ww21lQim5MFHDfOinPK0VigCgmvRX Lo0Dl6T8Gn7YikgIOhFRPwQ= =82go -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5602830.rAF6WM11gQ--