From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG  Thu Jul 17 09:17:01 2003
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id 00E5837B401; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from xorpc.icir.org (xorpc.icir.org [192.150.187.68])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id 59B2043F93; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org)
Received: from xorpc.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h6HGH0kN002399;
	Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org)
Received: (from rizzo@localhost)
	by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3/Submit) id h6HGH0GS002398;
	Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from rizzo)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:17:00 -0700
From: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <20030717091700.B2145@xorpc.icir.org>
References: <20030717080805.GA98878@dragon.nuxi.com>
	<p05210671bb3c1bf6b8fd@[128.113.24.47]> <20030717033620.B51802@xorpc.icir.org>
	<200307170906.51902.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20030717160942.GB46923@dragon.nuxi.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
In-Reply-To: <20030717160942.GB46923@dragon.nuxi.com>;
	from obrien@freebsd.org on Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:09:42AM -0700
Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue
X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture
	<freebsd-arch.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>,
	<mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>,
	<mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:17:01 -0000

On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:09:42AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
...
> > I think this is an excellent point.  David, can you provide actual numbers
> > of how much removing each of these programs saves?
> 
> Then hell, lets just totally duplicate all of /[s]bin into /rescue.
> Remember this is BSD, this is Unix.  This isn't every other gargantuan
> OS.  Before you call me facious, seriously ask yourself what is the
> purpose of /rescue.

whatever it is, certainly the purpose is not to show how good
a sysadmin is in using a knife's blade as a screwdriver and a fork
and a spoon. Heck, even swiss army knives have these extra
tools.

I think that if something in /rescue can make the task faster
and less error prone, removing it to save 10-50k of disk space
would be a big mistake.

	cheers
	luigi