From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 12:26:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18B516A4EC for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 12:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F318543D4C for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 12:26:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id x29so26426nfb for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:26:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to; b=h39AYGTHbW8XJfKqoCNXNJb1Wrm+tzgfbVd9SvfBcotJIZRCiflpww/WtcAYglQkair+WJfjk92G8uMnb1s33adREDp5NFrG5dystg4p09SjXnwHOMF3eAfSWwsm5nNSVCDAD1FqGwY9WQzVVf6KFp7U/F/CHcjWxnzdqnvl8Xo= Received: by 10.48.204.2 with SMTP id b2mr475863nfg; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local ( [217.185.119.162]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p43sm635541nfa.2006.05.18.05.20.48; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roadrunner.q.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.q.local (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4ICJxOC003568 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 14:20:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Received: (from q@localhost) by roadrunner.q.local (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k4IBiI4K002883 for ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:44:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uspoerlein@gmail.com) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:44:18 +0200 From: Ulrich Spoerlein To: ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060518114418.GD1039@roadrunner.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mail-Followup-To: ports@freebsd.org References: <183377CF4293A752066EF095@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <183377CF4293A752066EF095@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> Cc: Subject: Re: Has the port collection become to large to handle. X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:27:01 -0000 --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pauls@utdallas.edu wrote: > I *do* think tracking downloads would be valuable, *if* there's a way to = implement it and=20 > aggregate the data. Knowing how many times a particular port is installe= d might open more=20 > than a few eyes. The problem is, you'd have to have accurate stats from = *every* mirror and=20 > those would have to be aggregated and collated. Not a big problem, for s= ure, but still, more=20 > work for somebody who's already a volunteer. But knowing how many times = a port's distfile=20 > was fetched and how many times it was upgraded would be useful informatio= n. Tracking downloads is not the way to go. Bill Fenner's distsurvery is downloading them from time to time to check availability. Several people use the same /usr/ports/distfiles for multiple machines, skewing the numbers further. Registering the installation of ports/packages is not going to help either. I might install a port, test it 5 minutes and then delete it again. I also might install a port (eg. cvsup) which doesn't get regular updates, so only one installation is counted, whereas I frequently delete build-only deps (autoconf/automake) and need to reinstall them every so often. A possible way might be to add a periodic/weekly script, that sends pkg_info+uname output to some FreeBSD site. Preferably via HTTP POST, so proxies and firewalls will let the traffic pass. This needs to be opt-in of course, as there are various security implications. Ulrich Spoerlein --=20 PGP Key ID: 20FEE9DD Encrypted mail welcome! Fingerprint: AEC9 AF5E 01AC 4EE1 8F70 6CBD E76E 2227 20FE E9DD Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Don't know. Don't care. --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEbF4S524iJyD+6d0RAv6mAJ0bJpotCcQoF0mkqpZ+Wo4ryCxLOwCcDqvi 9NpdS16hY9E9LAYNhaVSm3g= =V+4K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O--