From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 3 17:46:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7A037B400; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F5243E4A; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0245.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.245] helo=mindspring.com) by goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17b9X0-0005Pe-00; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 17:46:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3D4C78F9.556EC3DD@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 17:44:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Sparrow Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dhcp problems with my ISP References: <20020804000636.7544143@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andy Sparrow wrote: > Hmm. I don't see where the original post mentions any specific ISP - thus this > is simply the policy of a single ISP, and not the one the poster is on? (In > fact, it looks rather like the poster is in Dear Old Blighty... ;-) Pretty irrelevant; once one provider learns a pig-trick, they all adopt it rather quickly... > Given the current plethora of misconfigured proxies spewing SPAM, I have to > admit I'm not as incensed by this as I might once have been. > > If you don't like this policy from your ISP, vote with your wallet. If you > have no other choice in your area, then you have my sympathy. You could always > move... :-d AT&T, since the purchase of TCI, owns the majority of the cable plant in the U.S.. If you want to get into politics, infrastructure like this should be owned by local government, and the operation and maintenance should be contracted out to best bidder (IMO). > PacHell (and many other DSL providers) don't gouge you for a static > IP, I'm happy to say. Yes. But they have the California PUC tarrif rules to deal with, which means a seriously restricted service area, regardless of their ability to actually support a DSL connection. Basically, they draw three circles on a map, centered on the LATE, and if you are more than 17,500 feet away, you don't get DSL. Have a nice day. So DSL is not a panacea; it's not even available, most locations. Japan actually has the best infrastructure, I think. I don't know if this is because, or in spite of, per packet sent charges. Either way, the small percentage of areas in California where DSL is actually available, rather than advertised as available, is not going to help someone in the U.K. who has a cable modem that won't talk to his FreeBSD box. 8-). > > Their technical FAQ is also enlighteining on their need for a MAC > > address: http://www.bbs.att.com/faqstech.shtml . > > Hmm, I didn't actually find it to be so. Other than mentioning how to find > your MAC on 'Doze box, I saw no reference to it at all. Perhaps I missed (or > failed to intuit) something? Their registration process requires you to provide the MAC, which is why they tell you how to ask you machine what MAC it has. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message