From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 11:16:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC0416A415 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B175D13C442 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray.stokely@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1494831uge for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:16:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vdv7jbGX4oI+cJ4+yJ+AEtg1qcQMJ0sRopUEdTKBlmaMvuDClSz05qqA+NMRt6x5zs6ywaoyyKRpo46DrEpQiplxGQWEPYEQ8T934yzHLmivWYLywCUXnoaKz/HnB8BPcgFSQnH6DV2xwZ/Q7C8RBCXq+sbUkwhVbbqxEUYuJ/w= Received: by 10.82.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr886974bud.1168945260499; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.108.20 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <474078f80701160301n1c768fc3pff2d9188dd33f7f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:01:00 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , murray@freebsd.org, "Wes Peters" , "Robert Watson" , developers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, "Mark Linimon" In-Reply-To: <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070113132216.GA59518@abigail.blackend.org> <20061113153246.J38359@fledge.watson.org> <20061113225512.GD1634@kobe.laptop> <20061128232326.T95096@fledge.watson.org> <50FF9A98-DFE9-4CF7-8760-B0AF2FE1F339@opensail.org> <20070113125711.GB16664@soaustin.net> <20070114033349.GB2734@kobe.laptop> <20070114104022.GC65886@abigail.blackend.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Slides, papers, etc. X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:16:17 -0000 On 1/14/07, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Maybe Murray can help a bit on this (Cced). I'm not against the fact we > also could use Beamer for some presentations with the advantage of a > very nice rendering, easy to learn, text source files, pdf rendering and > buildable with the current full docproj installation. On another hand I > know OOo can export files to DocBook but I don't know if it can be > directly useable in our DocBook/XML-slides environment. The current status of the slides/ work in doc/ is that you need to use a commercial XSL-FO processor to create nice looking PDFs. With enough work you can create something that looks roughly as good as Robert's red/orange OpenOffice slides or others that I have seen floating around. I think the more promising approach however is to convert DocBook directly into OpenOffice or Apple Keynote. Both have quite reasonable XML formats that allow you to define the contents of the presentation in one XML file and use a separately defined template to create it. Most of the work in creating the DocBook slides infrastructure involved working on PDF stylesheets. If you have robust enough OpenOffice support then you don't need to worry about style at all and can just use Robert's pre-existing one, or my old BSDi derived daemon one, or any other stylesheet to deal with where actually to display the header and what kind of background image to display, etc. To address a later point in this thread, having a central repository for slides in native formats sounds reasonable to me. I'd very much like to see the XML slides framework finished eventually as I really do think it is 90% there and just needs more people working on the stylesheets. - Murray