From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 14 18:12:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 105EA39C for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-03-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D97F2C60 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [73.34.117.227] (helo=ilsoft.org) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0Dep-0004UP-8g; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:12:39 +0000 Received: from revolution.hippie.lan (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sBEICaUP023319; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:12:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Originating-IP: 73.34.117.227 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+EXeRRU6Lgkileoy0iwRB8 Message-ID: <1418580756.2026.12.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: i386 PAE kernel works fine on 10-stable From: Ian Lepore To: Alfred Perlstein Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:12:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <1418579278.2026.9.camel@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.8 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:12:41 -0000 On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 10:09 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Dec 14, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > This is an out of the blue FYI post to let people know that despite all > > the misinformation you'll run across if you search for information on > > FreeBSD PAE support, it (still) works just fine. I've been using it > > (for reasons related to our build system and products at $work) since > > 2006, and I can say unequivocally that it works fine on 6.x, 8.x, and > > now 10.x (and presumably on the odd-numbered releases too but I've never > > tried those). > > > > In my most recent testing with 10-stable, I found it was compatible with > > drm2 and radeonkms drivers and I was able to run Xorg and gnome just > > fine. All my devices, and apps, and even the linuxulator worked just > > fine. > > > > One thing that changed somewhere between 8.4 and 10.1 is that I had to > > add a kernel tuning option to my kernel config: > > > > option KVA_PAGES=768 # Default is 512 > > > > I suspect that the most frequent use of PAE is on laptops that have 4gb > > and the default tuning is adequate for that. My desktop machine has > > 12gb and I needed to bump up that value to avoid errors related to being > > unable to create new kernel stacks. > > > > There already is a #define that is bifurcated based on PAE in pmap.h: > > #ifndef KVA_PAGES > #ifdef PAE > #define KVA_PAGES 512 > #else > #define KVA_PAGES 256 > #endif > #endif > > Do you think it will harm things to apply your suggested default to this file? > I would have to defer to someone who actually understands just what that parm is tuning. It was purely speculation on my part that the current default is adequate for less memory than I have, and I don't know what that downside might be for setting it too high. -- Ian