From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Feb 3 03:23:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23706 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 03:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23700 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 03:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA05150; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 03:23:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 03:23:16 -0800 (PST) From: Stranger Bone To: Steve Howe cc: Freebsd-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: un-ethical isp In-Reply-To: <293_9702030127@ice-bbs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 3 Feb 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > > Dear FreeBSDers, > > because of your excellent OS and superb knowledge, i/we decided to use > FreeBSD in projects for the government subcontracting starting about 2 > years ago. an associate and boss became upset due to their fear of > UNIX and a sort of conspiracy developed ... Ack! > anyway - unbeknownst to me, the owners of my isp (alaska.net) were former > associates this vengeful/ignorant co-worker and boss, and together > (as i came close to finishing a project way ahead of their NT > project) they (isp) engaged in ping flooding all my machines > on my networks, grinding all my work to a complete halt for > a week, and additionally, after tracing the source of the > pinging and sending some nasty email, my isp transferred > all my email i had ever written on my personal/private > account to my boss and co-worker for review, ie, they > were looking for some goodies to get rid of me. > they hired private investigators, etc. but i > was squeaky clean, although things have > become miserable enough to quit. :) I'll bet. > ANYWAY - my question is, although my lawyer says my isp may be > liable for slander, is there any other recourse i can take for > them giving 2 1/2 years of my email from my personal/private > account to my boss and co-workers? i wouldn't want laws, > but i despise un-ethical behaviour such as this! Laws are good sometimes. Look up privacy laws, but I think the whole 'net thing is too new for any laws to have been passed on it. Check state laws. I would suggest you write some mail to alternet, which is alaska.net's provider (if I read my traceroute output correctly). Mention how much grief alaska.net has caused you and casually let drop the fact that you've retained a lawyer. I wouldn't be surprised if alaska.net shortly finds itself without an IP feed. You can probably get alaska.net for the ping attacks under some computer vandalism law, I think there's a federal law that'll help you. Also, hire a better lawyer. He or she should know this stuff, I'm just a college student and I could probably find you several grounds for suit. > it included health information related to my family, > love letters :), thoughts, etc. all kinds of stuff > you'd never want anyone to see! My sympathy goes out to you. > (pgp? - well not everyone i wrote to can use it!) > > thanks ... please mail to hmmm@ice-bbs.net. (Use a reply-to header!) > a friend/co-worker is allowing me use of this > account as i have no isp currently ... Mail me privately about setting you up a telnet-accessible account on my machine, at least you'll have a mail drop of your own. Doesn't cost. > -- > | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. > | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). > > Ben The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia.