From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 06:00:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E635A5FB for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D89A29C9 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s5J5xGwv070351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:59:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Authentication-Results: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=none header.from=FreeBSD.org DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s5J5xGwv070351 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s5J5xGwv070351; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <53A27C2A.3040501@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:59:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith Subject: Re: No packages with 9.3-RELEASE? [was: Re: Port Changes FAQ] References: <20140619130115.M609@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20140619130115.M609@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gE5eH4ln8oh5STMmsJBP6LbbS67pep1ug" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.3 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Chris Maness , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:00:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --gE5eH4ln8oh5STMmsJBP6LbbS67pep1ug Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/06/2014 04:31, Ian Smith wrote: > > pkg(8) is default in 10.0 and will be default in all releases to com= e on > > all branches from now on. Given that the declared EoL of the old > > pkg_tools is due in September there's only one more release (9.3) th= at > > could possibly not have pkg(8) as default: however, my understanding= is > > that there are no plans to provide any old-style packages with that = release. >=20 > Please elaborate, Matthew? This is the first I've heard of this, I've = > seen nothing in -stable or elsewhere, and I'm more than a bit alarmed. You managed to miss *all* the talk about pkg_tools being replaced by pkg(= 8)? Note that I am not at all sure there will be no pkg_tools packages for 9.3. However I can be sure that there won't be any updates (including security updates) to any old-style pkg_tools package sets after a couple of months. > If 9.3 is not to have pkg(8) packages - whyever not? - and no old-style= =20 > packages, does this mean no package set at all for probably the last 2 = > year extended release on the 9 branch? So will there be no DVD1 with a= =20 > (relatively) consistent set of packages? Will there be no ports freeze= ? Because the old package tools are obsolete and due to be discontinued in a few months? There will definitely be pkg(8) packages for 9.3. There hasn't been a ports freeze for the last couple of releases; just a slush and a moratorium on sweeping changes. There will be pkg(8) packages on the DVD installer images. If that didn't work for you when installing 10.0 that's a bug. You know that all supported branches have the default package repositories enabled now (including 8.4-RELEASE and 9.2-RELEASE)? Do you also know how to turn that off? Like this: echo 'FreeBSD: { enabled: no}' > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf That should solve the problem with your systems wanting to connect to the net. However, that 'install packages from installation media' thing really should just work. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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