From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 18:03:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42121065672 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@mittelstaedt.us) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (unknown [IPv6:2607:fa80:40::6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D49D8FC20 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:03:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAKI34nm095658 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:03:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@mittelstaedt.us) Message-ID: <4EC940DA.2020900@mittelstaedt.us> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:03:06 -0800 From: Ted Mittelstaedt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org References: <201111190050.05726.admin@vizion2000.net> <4ec8ce86.SUQIYIhDcM4XkICl%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <201111200014.30960.david@vizion2000.net> In-Reply-To: <201111200014.30960.david@vizion2000.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com Subject: Re: epson printers on amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:03:13 -0000 On 11/20/2011 12:14 AM, David Southwell wrote: > On Sunday 20 November 2011 01:55:18 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: >> Warren Block wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, David Southwell wrote: >>>> Anyone up to date on how to do high quality printing with >>>> epson inkjet printers (in my case r2400 and r2880) on amd64 >>>> systems. print/pips* reports they require 386 and do not >>>> compile on amd64. >>> >>> print/gimp-gutenprint works pretty well from Gimp, although >>> I have not figured out how to get consistent color and brightness. >>> It supports both of those printers. >> >> I'm sure I'm not alone in doubting that _any_ ink-spitter is likely to >> produce "high quality printing" or "consistent color and brightness", >> regardless of the host support used. Those printers are designed to >> be manufactured as inexpensively as possible so as to be sold at very >> low prices, the profit being in the recurring ink sales. "Cheap" and >> "high quality" tend to be incompatible design goals. > Every printer out there is designed to be used in a business model where the profits are in recurring consumables sales. > > Not so with epson 2400 and 2880 when properly profiled these professional > printers produce salon quality prints and are not in any way comparable with > inexpensive consumer "inkspitter" models - I think you are right as far as > more economically priced printers are concerned. I have many prints produced > on epson 2400, 2880& larger epson printers accepted into international salons > and received awards. I have a cheaper Epson inkjet myself that uses the same ink setup as the more expensive ones your referring to and produces similar quality photos. The main difference between it and the more expensive inkjets is the paper control, in the better printers the paper is much more securely held and less likely to slip during printing. However, despite the fact that inkjets can be manufactured to produce excellent output, the caveat is that it is all in the ink. You cannot get high quality output from an inkjet with standard water-soluble inks, that's why the epson output is so good, because they use petroleum-based inks. However, the oil based inks WILL clog the printhead unless the printer is used frequently. The industry experimented with wax-based inks for a while, those also produce excellent output, but the printers also will clog unless they are used every day. I myself buy aftermarket water-soluble ink cartridges that are a drop-in replacement for the Epson cartridges, and do not clog, and are much cheaper. Print quality is lower, though. These printers are totally unsuitable for the average consumer who just wants to print a picture once every few months. Furthermore the cost-per-page is far higher than the current crop of inexpensive color laserjet printers, that is due to Epson using very small ink cartridges. Epson does that because larger cartridges have more mass and more mass has more inertia and is harder to control. Getting back to the original question, if your going to drop $500 into a professional quality inkjet and at least that every year into consumables for it in order to print pro-quality pictures on a regular basis, then setup an older extra 32-bit Intel-based PC as a print server and send Postscript jobs to it over the network, and have it convert them to whatever language the printer uses. Ted