From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 09:18:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DDF106566C for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hm@hm.net.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [187.95.0.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7B18FC14 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 09:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pop1.hm.net.br (pop1.hm.net.br [186.222.211.22]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q239IZOl073802; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 06:18:35 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from hm@hm.net.br) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at msrv.matik.com.br X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.3 msrv.matik.com.br q239IZOl073802 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=hm.net.br; s=racoon; t=1330766315; bh=nNzm2WtD74sKd7gVCcW+mec8ypzGnWcKHHlLuiveNrQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=rI67IRMElCpTOaKCtG3a/NOtSlAc2Fy+wTGBytLqd9ulchll14pa1K7tZg1SaJjIA oWi9uaRPo2OlXp0glHnpNLzYl+IE5RnehwuXfbKXNFdLVUYNXDSrTx90ovbqOPcTJ/ 0qdwzDUeJv6xqzCfj9w5JqFx8kjeVwdCQWnR1+Hw= Authentication-Results: msrv.matik.com.br; sender-id=pass header.from=hm@hm.net.br; spf=pass smtp.mfrom=hm@hm.net.br Message-ID: <4F51E1E5.3000202@hm.net.br> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 06:18:29 -0300 From: H User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bas Smeelen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <4F511496.50106@hm.net.br> <4F512BBB.9000403@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <4F512BBB.9000403@ose.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=9C63083C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig06E9594F567A72B1C11277F8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2-hm_201202.c X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2-hm_201202.c (2011-06-06) on msrv.matik.com.br Cc: Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:18:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig06E9594F567A72B1C11277F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bas Smeelen wrote: > On 03/02/2012 07:42 PM, H wrote: >> Doug Barton wrote: >>> ... and here is the crux of the problem. The vast majority of our >>> developers don't use FreeBSD as their regular workstation. So it has >>> increasingly become an OS where changes are being lobbed over the wal= l >>> by developers who don't run systems that those changes affect. That's= >>> no way to run a railroad. Doug >> wow >> >> since it is not April 1st it must be revelation's day ...:) >> >> is this then the bottomline ? >> >> if [ $using_ports=3DYES ]; get_screwed($big_time); fi >> >> > Hey people > > There are still a lot of us which might not be smart enough or lack > the resources to help you debug issues but we still use and depend on > FreeBSD, and we test, and hopefully give you some debugging hints > > I have some production servers running on STABLE and even some on > CURRENT to stress our developers, but most run RELEASE and use > freebsd-update > > Keep up the good work, it makes me a more confident sysadmin > Ports is the best thing happening to me after going through al the apt > and other stuff you talk like the wind blows my friend ... remembering your own most recent words in another occasion what certainly do not match your last sentence ... >/ On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen > wrote: />/ =20 />/ > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 />/ > David Jackson > wrote: />/ > =20 />/ > > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages= />/ > > on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: />/ > > /... >/ > > />/ > > All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an />/ > > unuseable state. =20 />/ > /.... >/=20 />/=20 />/ I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to />/ compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs />/ and would rather install some packages and have it all work right />/ away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It= />/ should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent= />/ versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull />/ off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS. / --=20 H --------------enig06E9594F567A72B1C11277F8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9R4eUACgkQvKVfg5xjCDytNwCbBIchuhBbZFNLzZ0aemIavAia vgcAoKDdmWmagK4TeRSYXBQxeLZxMwe0 =39jw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig06E9594F567A72B1C11277F8--