From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 6 17:02:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04395 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:02:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04364 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:02:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-135.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.135]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA10050; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:02:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA39818; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:18:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199901070018.SAA39818@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jamie Bowden cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Sony Playstations.. In-reply-to: Message from Jamie Bowden of "Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:13:00 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:18:28 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jamie Bowden writes: > SGI isn't dropping their MIPS based risc machines anytime soon. They > claim they'll go merced once it's shipped, and proven it's as fast as > intel claims it'll be. Since it will never ship, and based on intel's > track record, won't come near the performance they claim prior to release, > I don't see SGI dropping MIPS anytime soon. They are building intel based > NT boxes as low end graphics workstations. SGI have announced their > commitment to Irix and risc based workstations for the forseeable future. I wish SGI would put half the effort they have expended on making cheap NT boxes into doing the same for the O2. Can't see how an O2 costs more than the $4k NT box. Presumably SGI owns their CPU, OS, and compilers. Hopefully SGI doesn't pay much in royalties on code as Sun is somehow able to ship SunOS (for presonal use) for almost free. Almost cheaper than FreeBSD. If internally SGI would recognize the need to ship volume vs. milk the cash cow then they'd have Sun and Microsoft scared. IMHO SGI's problems originate in the early 90's when it was said they were developing an SGI video card. Initially it was believed to be a NuBus card for Macs. Then when announced it was a (either ISA or VL) card for PC's at over $3k. Didn't do very well as PC's were not mature enough to deal with a strange video card. Its a shame because the higher end of the Mac market would have been willing to pay that price. Plus the card would not have been the compatibility problem for the Mac. Presumably somebody thought SGI and Apple were competitors so SGI shouldn't help Apple by producing a state of the art video card for the Mac. Am looking forward to MacOS-X. Hoping Apple doesn't handicap it, and its able to be a real un*x.... If only Apple would also put parity/ECC hardware on their memory subsystems... I could replace aging SGI systems with Macintosh. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message