From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Nov 4 13:18: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8858C37B416 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-196.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.196] helo=stinky.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 160UeL-000I55-00; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:17:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Paul Robinson To: Francisco Reyes , FreeBSD Chat List Subject: Re: Mini survey. Backup service for BSDs Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 03:17:20 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20011104142909.F18641-100000@zoraida.natserv.net> In-Reply-To: <20011104142909.F18641-100000@zoraida.natserv.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01110403172000.01404@stinky.akitanet.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanner: exiscan *160UeL-000I55-00*$AK$sN13OIXCxz99u6pPdUO5Z/* Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 04 November 2001 19:39, Francisco Reyes wrote: > I have been pondering the idea of making a backup service for BSDs. > It seems there are many for windows, but few (none?) for BSDs (or that > would work with BSDs). I think you might be targetting the wrong crowd at this point in time - backup systems like you're proposing are really useful if you have a desktop with loads of important info on, but you can't afford a DAT or similar, and you want an off-site backup. As the current market segment FreeBSD sits in is mostly the ISP-like data center or hard-core sysadmin crowd, most of the current users will have a backup solution of their own. However, what I would say is that this is something that would be really cool if FBSD started seeing more desktop market share, and I can image that it would be a very neat system to sell FBSD to managers with. However, I think I have a better plan. I was contemplating a few months ago coming up with some sort of open, public, distributed backup system that used something like PGP or similar crypto across a peer-to-peer-like architecture. And make it free. I know people have talked about distributed file systems with p2p but I want to test the waters with backups first. If you can get that working, distributed FS becomes a reality. > So far I am thinking of using unison (simmilar to rsync, but simpler to > learn/use) over ssh. The remaining issue is trying to find a crypto > filesystem. Never heard of unison, but I know rsync doesn't like large filesystems, and eats memory like Elvis ate burgers, but the ssh is good for the transactional security. If you can work out how to make sure the data on your system is secure, but they also manage to make a recovery when the private key disappears with the machine that gets screwed, then you might be onto something. ;-) > Thoughts? > I am thinking something along the lines: > Space Cost > 100MB $20 > 200MB $30 > 500MB $50 Per month? Per year? One-off charge? It was per month, I'd say it's above where most home users would want it, and like I said before most companies tend to prefer their own solutions. Unless somebody can tell us different. Just my 2 braincells worth. ;-) -- Paul Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message