From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 8 20:11:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49FC106566C for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A92E8FC0A for ; Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjz5p-0002M8-11 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:49 +0100 Received: from c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com ([82.209.158.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:49 +0100 Received: from mc by c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Cardell Widerkrantz Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:11:32 +0100 Organization: Temple of the Moby Hack Lines: 34 Message-ID: <86wr92kl8r.fsf@kropotkin.hack.org> References: <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> <4EFF94CA.3050304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101064247.3e8b0b56@scorpio> <4F00580D.1060208@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20120101091420.117aa8f3@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-82-209-158-57.cust.bredband2.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ra8MQN7E2yh0dPqyieMmNpEelPo= Subject: Re: sour grapes .. was FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:11:50 -0000 "C. P. Ghost" , 2012-01-01 20:30 (+0100): > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:41 PM, doug wrote: >> That said, FreeBSD has a giant disadvantage in the desktop world. In trying >> to find if there will be any sort for my current laptop I came across a >> comment from Robert Noland saying that Xorg is becoming more and more Linux >> centric. That is a problem the FreeBSD project can not overcome. > > Did he mean frameworks like evdev(4) and so? > > http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/evdev.4.html That man-page really doesn't explain what has changed. The new thing is that X.org has done away with hald. > Stuff like this really ought to be backported to FreeBSD, either > directly or by providing more Linuxisms on our side. It also seems rather easy, considering we already have devd which could be used to feed evdev with information about input devices. > There's no /technical/ reason why it can't be done. True. He probably also meant stuff like Kernel mode-setting (KMS) and GEM. All this is being worked on in FreeBSD as well: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU -- http://hack.org/mc/ Warning! Plain text e-mail, please. HTML e-mail deleted unread. OpenPGP: 673B 563E 3C78 1BA0 6525 2344 B22E 2C10 E4C9 2FA5