From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 3 14:17:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B111065670 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDCC8FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:17:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Sat, 3 Mar 2012 15:17:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4F522803.70205@ose.nl> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:17:39 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: H References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <4F511496.50106@hm.net.br> <4F512BBB.9000403@ose.nl> <4F51E1E5.3000202@hm.net.br> In-Reply-To: <4F51E1E5.3000202@hm.net.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:17:49 -0000 On 03/03/2012 10:18 AM, H wrote: > you talk like the wind blows my friend ... > > remembering your own most recent words in another occasion what > certainly do not match your last sentence ... What you 'mis'quote further down was not my writing. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-January/237779.html My reply to djackson was and more, see link above I understand your motivations. On my 1,6GHz celeron it takes a lot of time to compile the ~600 ports I use, especially chromium for instance and when I forget to give an option to not bother me with questions it sits there waiting for me to enter y or n. Ports/ packages are not `a basic part` of the FreeBSD OS. I also don't think it is simple and straight forward to satisfy all different user requirements and options in a package system. Ubuntu for my taste has had flukes in many ways many times in the past and still has (often enough the developers desktop users complain). It works good with complete upgrades at times, on the other hand it still leaves me sometimes with an unusable freezing OS on the desktop, and before every upgrade it has becomes mandatory to me to first try it with an USB boot. This is something I cannot have on server systems being used 24x7. > >> / On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen> wrote: > />/ > />/> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 > />/> David Jackson> wrote: > />/> > />/> > I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages > />/> > on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: > />/> > > /... >> /> > > />/> > All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an > />/> > unuseable state. > />/> > /.... >> / > />/ > />/ I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to > />/ compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs > />/ and would rather install some packages and have it all work right > />/ away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It > />/ should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent > />/ versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull > />/ off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS. / > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email