From owner-freebsd-current Thu Mar 28 5: 8: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.nc.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BE337B41A; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 05:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:07:25 -0500 Received: by i8k.babbleon.org (Postfix, from userid 111) id 21DCABA05; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:07:24 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "Robert L Sowders" , Gregory Neil Shapiro Subject: Re: The sendmail discussion... Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:07:23 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020328130724.21DCABA05@i8k.babbleon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 28 March 2002 06:39 am, Robert L Sowders wrote: | Greg is absolutely correct. | | These whiners, who constantly moan for code while never contributing any, | should contribute the code if they want it changed. | | Also I shudder to think that those who customize their systems would | actually learn how to use all the tools available to them to prevent a | makeworld from overwriting or undoing their customizations. :) I was sorta wondering about that . . . The whole mailwrapper takes care of this anyway, doesn't it? At least that's what it's there for . . . don't you just re-install the port and voila! life is good again? | I wish that we could assign a bitch rating to some of these emails. Say a | sliding bitch scale depending on how much code the bitchee has | contributed. Then they could easily be filtered to /dev/null. | Waddayathink? ;) So what you are saying is that you never want people to use (or at least to customize) FreeBSD unless they are FreeBSD developers? That's the most extreme version of "we won't care about who uses it" that I've ever heard. The fact is, it's a lot more convenient for all FreeBSD users if the user base is expanded because it makes hardware and software vendors pay more attention to FreeBSD. So *some* accomidation to people who are at least willing to get their hands dirty with scripts is in the interest of the entire FreeBSD community. Sure, you don't want to lose all the benefits of FreeBSD in a mad rush to accomodate the masses -- I left the Linux fold in part becuase I felt that the mainstream distributions, at least, were going too far to do that, but it's certainly possible to go too far in the other direction as well. | Much ado about nothing, so far, RTFM. | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) ME --> http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org <-- GOOD GUYS --> http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message