From owner-freebsd-security Thu May 11 13:44:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D851D37BA23 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA41333; Thu, 11 May 2000 22:44:22 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200005112044.WAA41333@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Paul Hart Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: envy.vuurwerk.nl daily run output References: In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Hart "Thu, 11 May 2000 10:21:22 CST." Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:44:22 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ Change the freaking subject already!! ] > That's a scary thought. "Our security depends on all attackers being > stupid." Shouldn't we work toward meaningful tools that cannot be > subverted even by the most skilled of attackers? Not all attackers are > script kiddies and it would be foolish of us to think they are. *Bing* for (;;) printf("There is no silver bullet!\n"); The only workable tool is a well-paid, paranoid security guy. The rest are there to help the WPPSG. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message