From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 26 21:03:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2256D9A9857 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from relaygateway02.edpnet.net (relaygateway02.edpnet.net [212.71.1.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.edpnet.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 985D51AE for ; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlQGABKjsFXV25yK/2dsb2JhbABbgxVUab0/CoU3SgKBUk0BAQEBAQGBC4QjAQEBAwEBAQEgKwgYCwULCxgJEw4CAg8FEwEJCCQIBwQBHASIBQwJtgaRO4RyAR+KSoEChDQBAVAHgmiBQwWHD4ZWhneEdYRpglYBggmXDyaDfjwxAQaBBoE+AQEB X-IPAS-Result: AlQGABKjsFXV25yK/2dsb2JhbABbgxVUab0/CoU3SgKBUk0BAQEBAQGBC4QjAQEBAwEBAQEgKwgYCwULCxgJEw4CAg8FEwEJCCQIBwQBHASIBQwJtgaRO4RyAR+KSoEChDQBAVAHgmiBQwWHD4ZWhneEdYRpglYBggmXDyaDfjwxAQaBBoE+AQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,530,1432591200"; d="scan'208";a="330223790" Received: from 213.219.156.138.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net (HELO mordor.lan) ([213.219.156.138]) by relaygateway02.edpnet.net with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 26 Jul 2015 22:59:46 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 23:01:51 +0200 From: Julien Cigar To: CeDeROM Cc: CK , FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: Endless Data Loss Message-ID: <20150726210150.GG1843@mordor.lan> References: <0MRCCJ-1ZUCcr1rAt-00UeQk@mail.gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 21:03:08 -0000 --zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 06:30:38PM +0200, CeDeROM wrote: > UFS2 SU+J has failed me several times as well. I also ocassionaly > experienced root filesystem corruption that prevented valid boot. Even on= a > fresh install and new hardware I consider UFS2 SU+J unreliable.. I am not > sure why this got into production :-( Same here.. (on 10.1-RELEASE) I turned off soft updates journaling on all my machines since the day one of my file system (on a production machine) was corrupted. >=20 > Performing forced fsck on a SU+J filesystem that was considered clean in J > revealed inconsistency on fsck. >=20 > Try to disable SU+J, maybe only J as mentioned in other reply. I will try > that too. >=20 I never got any problem with SU only, I think only the +J part is broken > Try ZFS for good consistency. Or wait/force full fsck before system is up. >=20 > Also, take a look at hard drive details - manufacturer and series (i.e. WD > RED, BLACK, GREEN) - they can have totally different firmware with badblo= ck > correction that may cause troubles as well. >=20 > Best regards :-) > Tomek >=20 > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" --=20 Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. --zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABCgAGBQJVtUq6AAoJEAi2KiTKQR5pU78P/3lbswvWPq6TSDwpy52HGZOn I1n0MkgwkGRGZAg3HewPsmo2Q5b4sK/zi3qNrd+2e8mz38KDadW2fLbS/Hjue5qS VkGQ0N6JclrhT6RljL101rs8598e0BrGNNw7PzMGPA86K4mob8trtTRGixF/bK0T lIysn4EqRrXjRGI1nMeAu1RmxSuWojyYcsX6LeKQvvmKLpOuNPCPULVwWx89lLnK +XdnUsLi9jfOMzJYhU8pI1bf65RqjIqqyMznzEu2NrE+2TdfoeI9jp+RGH005rll 8Mx/JwiblAM9swAxYk1E6N3WxBaY5XmI13DhqwMCpPajjuwdKDZtPCJWQhgHKgCT ztCugShM+l99s2/FdNPWdh8l9UnfgtEvvcH0m5aHLiwx9zdbGqz0lK6emWD3IuKU y/itrU5G7soQlVXXZGwhI9BYawjfNjcMXvq25VSA1/55eIdbvummYh815k42TUn8 ryJ8Ood6XJHeq0urxCXGuo2DFWpWyRcX9hDPKLj/w2Un59iVYAbxDuA/VG5tUZH9 +tjCZ/Gzb0qV1k4g7ujEuAJ4EFh2nMZVwEW+84hyoFGb7/7fL7M/AHh2PMWdxDOD ZCSA1qxMzlIc7fQ4lwrgmbHYyJTC1PB0JLOiRmvO8lDpWVa5FhE9dkyClNTVeRxQ dJOEFvWwbUBRgl52UIcW =kfuo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zGQnqpIoxlsbsOfg--