From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 8 17:13:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23871 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 17:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23866 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 1997 17:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03317; Mon, 9 Jun 1997 07:52:36 +0800 (WST) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 07:52:35 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: vas@vas.tsu.tomsk.su cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP problems. In-Reply-To: <199706080331.LAA01997@vas.tomsk.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 8 Jun 1997, Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > Joshua Fielden wrote: > > > They all seem to end up saying "talk to your ISP" but my ISP will not > > deal with anyone running any sort of U*ix system. Anyone got any ideas? > > I have seen many messages of this kind recently. Is it a new fashion in > internet service providing or do those providers receive money from Bill > Gates? I certainly don't receive money from Bill :-) Thing is, with larger ISPs, the clueful unix people are usually the administrators, and are generally kept *AWAY* from user support. The droids DOING user support dont know anything about unix, and so .. :) -- Adrian Chadd | "Unix doesn't stop you from doing | stupid things because that would | stop you from doing clever things"