From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 14 05:45:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1917516A407 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6174C43D53 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:45:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k8E5jHXd000517 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:45:17 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.11.5] (206.83.147.124.dy.bbexcite.jp [124.147.83.206]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.03) with ESMTP id k8E5jFO3024775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:45:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <609F7A2A-2DD9-4816-AA2B-DC3EBA816FCB@hackmiester.com> References: <45080374.2050408@gmx.net> <609F7A2A-2DD9-4816-AA2B-DC3EBA816FCB@hackmiester.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <76479B17-6F93-42A1-8118-87BBD2BD18AE@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:45:14 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.9.13.222442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P5 0, __CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Thank You and Mc OS games X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:45:36 -0000 On Sep 14, 2006, at 6:33 AM, hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) wrote: > > On 13 September 2006, at 15:25, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > >> >> On the other hand, you might have heard that Mac OS X is based on >> FreeBSD. > > Although it is based on BSD, I don't think it's FreeBSD it was > based on. I think it goes all the way back to 4.2BSD. Or something. > >> They removed all the clear things you were talking about, >> slipstreamed a clear-looking GUI and put a price tag on it. The >> result >> is a pretty good desktop OS (for a commercial one that is). You might >> want to try it out. >> >> Take care! > > -- > hackmiester (Hunter Fuller) > > yknow when you go to a party, and everyones hooked up > except one guy and one girl > and so they look at each other like.. do we have to? > intel & nvidia must be lookin at each other like that right > now > > > Phone > Voice: +1 251 589 6348 > Fax: Call the voice number and ask. > > Email > General chat: hackmiester@hackmiester.com > Large attachments: hackmiester@gmail.com > SPS-related stuff: hfuller@stpaulsmobile.net > > IM > AIM: hackmiester1337 > Skype: hackmiester31337 > YIM: hackm1ester > Gtalk: hackmiester > MSN: hackmiester@hackmiester.com > Xfire: hackmiester Please look at Chuck's earlier post for more information as to the fact that FreeBSD is used in the Mac OSX Darwin kernel. As for how it was used, IIRC from what I've read, the Darwin kernel is a hybrid kernel made from the FreeBSD kernel and the Mach kernel from Carnegie Mellon. The Mach portion of the Darwin kernel provides a lot of the hardware support, resource management, and tie-ins (it's a micro-kernel), while the FreeBSD derived portion provides a lot of the BSD'ness for policies and the like (i.e. sockets, networking, permissions, etc). I obtained my info from an OS book and Wikipedia, if anyone's interested. -Garrett