From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 15 05:38:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2DB16A4CE; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:38:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ED743D2D; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:38:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5F5cgpg099982; Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:38:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Gordon Tetlow From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 2004 15:09:31 PDT." <20040614220931.GR10016@spiff.melthusia.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 07:38:42 +0200 Message-ID: <99981.1087277922@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: geom@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GEOM class idea... X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:38:45 -0000 In message <20040614220931.GR10016@spiff.melthusia.org>, Gordon Tetlow writes: >> Many of us read CD's into iso images, stick them on a harddisk and >> mount them from there when we need to access them. This usually >> costs us a md(4) vnode gadget, and that is really a waste. > >=2E.. description of grotty geom class ... > >I can't imagine that all the pain that you are talking about is a >worthwhile effort when it's so easy to do a md backed file. I can >just about guarentee that users will have spare files and capacity >before they have a spare disk running around. > >Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage of >going straight off of the disk? Are you trying to avoid the FFS >filesystem overhead? You would save both the md and ffs overhead and gain about 10% disk capacity in the process. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.