From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 1 19:26:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D530216A51B; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 19:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (jojo.ms-net.de [84.16.236.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C7343DDB; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 19:26:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (p54A5FC22.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.252.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by www.ebusiness-leidinger.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k81J5NqI085199; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 21:06:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from localhost (webmail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k8197ft1029099; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:07:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from psbru.cec.eu.int (psbru.cec.eu.int [158.169.131.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:07:41 +0200 Message-ID: <20060901110741.szps9tr98gs484ow@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:07:41 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Ivan Voras References: <20060831121426.GA27060@stud.ntnu.no> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:54:47 +0000 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Improvements to gvinum and it's future X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 19:26:46 -0000 Quoting Ivan Voras (from Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:42:10 +0200): > Ulf Lilleengen wrote: > >> Now, one could ask why I bother doing work on gvinum now, since we =20 >> have gmirror, >> gconcat, graid3 and all that. The reason is that gvinum is =20 >> important as a volume >> manager. Ivan Voras' work on gvirstor seems very promising as a =20 >> foundation of a >> new volume manager, and I've been planning to start working on =20 >> utilities (fvm, >> freebsd volume manager) that utilize these new geom classes instead =20 >> of having to >> maintain a separate RAID implementations, but that will take time, =20 >> and meanwhile > > I'm not the one with power-of-decision here, but I think this would be > very counter-productive. I'd suggest a different approach, of which I > had plans on actually doing, but got sidetracked - to build a userland > utility that would use existing GEOM classes in more-or-less opaque way > to the user (meaning: users don't have to be aware of actual kernel > classes to do the job). > > The idea was to build a curses terminal interface application May I direct your eyes to our now tool "sade" in -current? Bye, Alexander. --=20 If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library? =09=09-- Lily Tomlin http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137