From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 12:35:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89939A5C; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 12:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.69.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cell.glebius.int.ru", Issuer "cell.glebius.int.ru" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9815BEF3; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 12:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t25CZm1O078904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:35:48 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id t25CZmre078903; Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:35:48 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 15:35:48 +0300 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Slawa Olhovchenkov Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh Message-ID: <20150305123548.GO17947@FreeBSD.org> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305122359.GM17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123016.GO48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123053.GN17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123349.GP48476@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150305123349.GP48476@zxy.spb.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 12:35:51 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:33:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> > S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: S> > S> > S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: S> > S> > S> > B> Author: bapt S> > S> > S> > B> Date: Wed Mar 4 22:01:44 2015 S> > S> > S> > B> New Revision: 279603 S> > S> > S> > B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603 S> > S> > S> > B> S> > S> > S> > B> Log: S> > S> > S> > B> r* commands are not precious anymore S> > S> > S> > B> S> > S> > S> > B> Modified: S> > S> > S> > B> head/bin/rcp/Makefile S> > S> > S> > B> head/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile S> > S> > S> > S> > S> > S> > I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :) S> > S> > S> > S> > S> > S> > In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base? S> > S> > S> S> > S> > S> yes. S> > S> > S> Some telecom equipment require rlogin. S> > S> > S> > S> > Other telecom equipment require a JRE and special .jar to S> > S> > configure them. Does that mean operating systems must ship S> > S> > them? S> > S> S> > S> Yes, if ships before (don't break if working). S> > S> Some Linux distro remove telnet from default install. S> > S> Do you like to remove telnet also? S> > S> > Yes. S> S> And how to test open/listing ports/sockets?! nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this capability is a side effect. S> How to connect to mpd control socket?! pkg install mpd5 telnet -- Totus tuus, Glebius.