From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 4 8:17: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EAC37B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts10.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29EC43EC5; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:16:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: from number6.magda.ca ([64.229.224.16]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20030104161658.RYSW8252.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@number6.magda.ca>; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:16:58 -0500 Received: from number6.magda.ca (localhost.magda.ca [127.0.0.1]) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h04GGvkL000398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:16:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dmagda@magda.ca) Received: (from dmagda@localhost) by number6.magda.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h04GGvch000395; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:16:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dmagda@number6.magda.ca) To: Mark Cc: "Marcus Reid" , "Mike Hogsett" , , Subject: Re: FreeBSD Stability References: <200212170023.gBH0Nvlu000764@beast.csl.sri.com> <20030103000232.GA52181@blazingdot.com> <200301030117.H031HZS41668@asarian-host.net> Reply-To: dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca From: David Magda Date: 04 Jan 2003 11:16:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200301030117.H031HZS41668@asarian-host.net> Message-ID: <86d6nc99fq.fsf@number6.magda.ca> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark writes: > What is it that makes people rave about the longest uptime? To me, this is > just a list of sites whose admins have neglected to perform the necessary > upgrade-maintenances, seemingly for almost three years even. To me, this is > just a list of potentially vulnerable sites. You can go into single user mode ('shutdown now'), and have all the services stop. Then update them when necessary and do a '^D' to go back into single user mode. This will not reset the uptime counter. You would be stuck using an old kernel- and user-land however. If there is only one open port to the outside world, and you make sure that program is secure then it should not be a problem. -- David Magda Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message