From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jan 4 9:20:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C4E37B401; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sage-american.com (adsl-65-71-135-139.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1994443E4A; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Received: from sagea (sagea.sage-american [192.168.0.3]) by sage-american.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id h04HKMge007800; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:20:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030104112023.012b8ee8@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 11:20:23 -0600 To: dmagda@ee.ryerson.ca, Mark From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: FreeBSD Stability Cc: "Marcus Reid" , "Mike Hogsett" , , In-Reply-To: <86d6nc99fq.fsf@number6.magda.ca> References: <200301030117.H031HZS41668@asarian-host.net> <200212170023.gBH0Nvlu000764@beast.csl.sri.com> <20030103000232.GA52181@blazingdot.com> <200301030117.H031HZS41668@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43-jlsrules1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:16 AM 1.4.2003 -0500, David Magda wrote: >Mark writes: > >> What is it that makes people rave about the longest uptime? To me, this is >> just a list of sites whose admins have neglected to perform the necessary >> upgrade-maintenances, seemingly for almost three years even. To me, this is >> just a list of potentially vulnerable sites. > >You can go into single user mode ('shutdown now'), and have all the >services stop. Then update them when necessary and do a '^D' to go >back into single user mode. This will not reset the uptime counter. > >You would be stuck using an old kernel- and user-land however. If >there is only one open port to the outside world, and you make sure >that program is secure then it should not be a problem. > >-- >David Magda Seems like a lot of trouble just to maintain "bragging rights" about uptime, only to have a "hobbled" system that is not really up to date. That's not quite "up" IMHO. Moreover, the uptimes are really great insasmuch as I already have comfort in knowing I have a very stable, reliable system with FBSD and don't need to bragg instead that I haven't had a "crash" in more than 10 days. I won't mention any OS names though that have that habit as a courtesy. Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message