From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 18:32:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819741065675 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5161C8FC26 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd7ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.161]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2008 11:32:37 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=ERn7rUHXMWFG4Byod2UA:9 a=PzxChX3Wm44irSu-WYQA:7 a=hMft4geIgfMohV05VOXfmphsTCwA:4 a=D02SvSX6Ox4A:10 a=hMM2GHGroxMA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd7ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2008 11:32:37 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197D71701E for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:32:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:32:36 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081212103236.1cfdde86@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <20081212120348.P3687@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <11167f520812070853i3b6fa6dei6e5c71669416470@mail.gmail.com> <20081207191727.V1610@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207193517.GA20905@laverenz.de> <20081207121431.5dcb37f9@gom.home> <1228733482.4495.14.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081211122714.W4172@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081211191219.GB4970@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211132419.761ce14e@gom.home> <20081212001125.GC32300@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211164723.460f909a@gom.home> <20081212014654.GA32982@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211190418.360dffa5@gom.home> <20081212120348.P3687@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:32:38 -0000 On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:04:21 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > there are excellent opensource software and there are crappy > opensource bloatware. > > just being opensource doesn't mean anything > agreed, but we prefer to support opensource from a philosophical perspective even when the quality isn't quite up to scratch. for instance, we use shane hudson's scid which has become chessdb instead of the really excellent chessbase because we preferred to support shane while he was doing scid many years ago. with reference to the desktops, i really don't think the xp offering really compares to either kde or gnome - you can't even get multiple desktops there without third party stuff from what i recall. still some things are available on xp which aren't elsewhere (for various reasons), but i'd rather work around these. actually, i work around kde and gnome too (even though i think they're pretty decent), and use dwm. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's