From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 6 06:54:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3484216A4CE for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:54:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateway.nixsys.be (gateway.nixsys.be [195.144.77.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A77943D3F for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 06:54:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from philip@nixsys.be) Received: from loge.nixsys.be (loge.nixsys.be [195.144.77.45]) by gateway.nixsys.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584846C for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:54:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from loge.nixsys.be (philip@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by loge.nixsys.be (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i966sZ3Z001082 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:54:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from philip@loge.nixsys.be) Received: (from philip@localhost) by loge.nixsys.be (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i966sYbG001081 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:54:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from philip) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:54:33 +0200 From: Philip Paeps To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041006065433.GB612@loge.nixsys.be> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <200410060019.i960JSbq012606@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <1F92A08DB846503C2933CB0D@[192.168.1.16]> <20041006010051.GA53821@sirius.speicher.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041006010051.GA53821@sirius.speicher.org> X-Date-in-Rome: pridie Nonas Octobres MMDCCLVII ab Urbe Condida X-PGP-Fingerprint: FA74 3C27 91A6 79D5 F6D3 FC53 BF4B D0E6 049D B879 X-Message-Flag: Get a proper mailclient! Organization: Happily Disorganized User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Re: csh is root's shell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 06:54:39 -0000 On 2004-10-05 21:00:51 (-0400), Geoff Speicher wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:26:32PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > > --On Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:19 PM -0700 David Wolfskill > > wrote: > > > > > Well, per > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/master.passwd?rev=1.1&conte > > > nt-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup it looks as if /bin/csh was root's shell as > > > of Revision 1.1, Sun Jun 20 13:41:37 1993 UTC (11 years, 3 months ago) by > > > rgrimes. > > > > > > No, I didn't check to see if it had changed back & forth in the interim. > > > > Wow. I must have been carrying my passwd files along with my upgrades > > since forever. I don't have a single system that has csh as root's shell. > > I imagine it was made the default because of its supposed friendly > interactivity features. FreeBSD's csh is really tcsh, which is quite friendly for interactive use. I seem to recall that many shells have in fact borrowed some of the friendly features of tcsh (think zsh). > I personally find it quite the contrary (no offense to Bill Joy of course), > as do plenty of others. A matter of taste. > Google on 'csh considered harmful' for a compelling argument. That's about shell programming, not about interactive use. - Philip [yes, happy tcsh user :-)] -- Philip Paeps Please don't Cc me, I am philip@freebsd.org subscribed to the list. BOFH Excuse #210: We didn't pay the Internet bill and it's been cut off.