From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 11:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp03.eresmas.com (asmtp03.eresmas.com [62.81.235.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BD743D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.52] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp03.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8Gu-0001z5-SU; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Received: from [80.103.10.64] (helo=[80.103.10.64]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cq8Gu-0001XM-1B; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Message-ID: <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:11:14 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: >Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's >obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user >interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the >web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X >Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include the >drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the >rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys >are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can >draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so >obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old >graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. Never heard such a stupid e-mail! If you do not like the installer, learn how to fix it and do it! I came from Linux and found the installer different to Debian installer, but as soon as I understood it I think it is great! You are the amateurish, not the installer. Your card is well supported in X window, it has nothing to do with kernel driver. You need to read the manual first, you can find it in the install CD, or in the /usr/share/doc/ directory. Good luck. Ramiro. EA1ABZ (ham radio call, is there any radio ham there?).