From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jan 28 14:57:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A7537B400 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57443BDA7; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06258; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:57:22 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0SN1ae01876; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad disk partitioning policies (was: "Re: FreeBSD Intaller (was "Re: ... RedHat ...")") References: <20020123124025.A60889@HAL9000.wox.org> <3C4F5BEE.294FDCF5@mindspring.com> <20020123223104.SM01952@there> <15440.35155.637495.417404@guru.mired.org> <15440.53202.747536.126815@guru.mired.org> <15441.17382.77737.291074@guru.mired.org> <20020125212742.C75216@over-yonder.net> <3C534C4A.35673769@mindspring.com> <0s3d0s5dos.d0s@localhost.localdomain> <3C53ED01.61407A02@mindspring.com> <3C54A24B.B0B607F@mindspring.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 28 Jan 2002 15:01:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: <3C54A24B.B0B607F@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <9mit9mm65r.t9m@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > is linear or exponential (exponential), and even saying that > raises more questions from people who want to have knowledge > given to them, instead of having to learn it (such people ... > Realize that this is all irrelevent, and what we are really > talking about is not whether or not the disk space is able > to be used, but rather "eye candy" for the system owener so > that they can see a larger "available disk space" number. ... > I think the confusion comes because anyone who naievely looks > at the man pages, without reading them in depth, can come to > the conclusion that the "free reserve" might be there for root > use to recover a nearly completely full system, and so it's an > administrative, rather than an algorithmic requirement. ... > I believe that no matter *how well* you document things, you > will still have problems with tourists who don't take time > to read what you have written, in depth, to the point of > understanding it. All good points, but it's debatable how well they apply to any particular situation. SA's (esp. amateurs) shouldn't be expected to be all-knowing or even all-reading. Documentation is best done at many levels (I can easily think of 5). A terse man page and technical treatise gives too small a number of levels. Terry, thanks for your gentlemanly response to my rude remarks and for otherwise putting up with me. I'll have trouble deciding whether to discuss other issues when I'll fear that you'll waste time on it whether you find it to be obligatory bother or enjoyable banter. (But I try to pretend that ML/NG msgs are written to unknown people and just worry about what's being discussed, with occasional exceptions like this.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message