From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 7 21:43:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1C816A4DA; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:43:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0217143D68; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:42:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AFC46BA2; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 22:42:57 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Joseph Koshy In-Reply-To: <20060707185523.102F616A524@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20060707223928.F80381@fledge.watson.org> References: <20060707185523.102F616A524@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en/news press.xml X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:43:02 -0000 On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Joseph Koshy wrote: >> Is this really FreeBSD news? The article you committed a link to doesn't >> mention FreeBSD at all. PC-BSD may be running FreeBSD under the hood, but >> I'm not sure that this belongs in the news section on the front page @ >> FreeBSD.org. > > The mention is in the 'In the Press' page though, not in the 'news' section. > >> I'm not saying that it's wrong to add it, but can we please have some sort >> of discussion about this? Where do we draw the line? Is news about >> DesktopBSD, FreeSBIE, FreeNAS, DragonFlyBSD etc allowed if we allow news >> about PC-BSD? > > DesktopBSD, FreeSBIE, Frenzy & PC-BSD are still FreeBSD and mention of them > in the press would be IMHO ok for inclusion in our 'FreeBSD in the Media' > link collection. > > I've also linked to good 'generic BSD' press articles in the past from our > 'Press' page. Advocacy has fuzzy boundaries... > > I wish we had a better way of sharing advocacy & marketing efforts with our > derivative projects. Ditto. I think we should be as supportive as we can for these projects, both in terms of interacting with them for PR purposes, but also on technical grounds to try and preemptively help identify and address problems they have with FreeBSD as it stands, and finding ways to support their future FreeBSD use. We've benefitted a lot from FreeSBIE's involvement in FreeBSD especially. "Scalability" has always been one of the more interesting issues in how the FreeBSD Project is structured. By having a strong and centralized core development team and repository, we've built a really nice and tightly integrated system. However, it's also had the effect of reducing the number of spin-off and derivative projects. This has had many benefits, but there are benefits to having those projects with their own specific focuses and identity exist as well, and making sure that they fit into a more broad FreeBSD ecosystem. Most of us may be focused on FreeBSD in the server, but more power to people who want to make it work well on the desktop, in live CDs, etc. And especially if they do a good job on advocacy, finding ways to bring FreeBSD to places it's not been before. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge