From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 19 18:27:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5C516A4CE for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:27:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.151.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075AA43D2F for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:27:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from april.chuckr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by april.chuckr.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAJIrLjN042193; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:53:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost)iAJIrK7N042190; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:53:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) X-Authentication-Warning: april.chuckr.org: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:53:20 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Brooks Davis In-Reply-To: <20041119130644.G38351@april.chuckr.org> Message-ID: <20041119134152.P38351@april.chuckr.org> References: <20041118222536.R38351@april.chuckr.org> <20041119105620.J38351@april.chuckr.org> <20041119130644.G38351@april.chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mouse problems --WORKAROUND!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:27:21 -0000 On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Chuck Robey wrote: This one stinks, but until a better solution comes around, this gets me off the ground. What did it take? Brooks (and I think one other person, but I forget who) had reported they had no problem in running both, and by god, that IS what works! Run both! That gets you at least a single mouse running, which is a whole lot better than bupkis. Who knows, maybe the extremely ill look of this fix might motivate a more elegant solution from someone. Maybe a miracle wil happen and I'll get a chance to fix it myself (don't hold your breath). OK, for those who've been bored, I'm finished. For any of the horde of folks I saw on the net, write me privately if you need to know more, I offer whatever help I can, but do it soon, I get yet another surgery on Monday, I won't be answering up so well on Tuesday. With all these problems, FreeBSD still compares awfully well against Linux. I will take a chance to make one Linux-comment, tho, and all my recent Linux exposure might make this more useful. FreeBSD has done a good job of improving rc, but I saw a better one. The rc implementation done by the folks at Linux's gentoo, well, its a programmer's wet dream. They have no business having such a nice rc, it's so BSD-ish it's funny. Honestly, it's well worth a strong peak. Someone at gentoo knows how to code in sh. If anyone is more than curious about that, I migth be willing to see if I can place some working examples on the net for you. Strong curiosity, from real programmers, is enough to motivate me (send me a ssh line). > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > The PS/2 mouse is configured in /etc/rc.conf with the lines: > > > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > > moused_flags="" > > > > > > and the USB mouse is handled by the default entrly in usbd.conf which is > > > enabled in rc.conf with: > > > > > > usbd_enable="YES" > > > > VERY good, thanks for the response, please work with me here. First, I'm > > working with a brand new amd64 install, so my etc is hopefully (and more > > properly, my rc.conf) up to date, it has a mouse_ports, but not a > > moused_flags at all, so you may be working witha customized etc ... no big > > surprise. I interpolated, tried your settings, on reboot I have no > > /dev/psm0 device. I looked at the psm man page, and I dolled up the > > /boot/loader.conf as instructed. on reboot, kenv reports what I would > > want to see, but still no /dev/psm0 (which is why, I suppose, I have only > > a single moused process running, the usbd.conf inspired one. That one, > > the mouse cursor still disappears the moment I touch the keyboard.. > > > > That info I did, I tried both with and without the atkbdc hint in the mail > > archives. > > > > I notice, btw, that the usb (ums0) gets probed by the kernel well, well > > before rc.conf gets asked about psm0 ... I bet that timing is something > > that, if I could change, might help things. I would like the psm to get > > started before the usb one. > > Bad etiquete to reply to myself, but I had more ideas, and I tried them. > I'm again at an end, but I have this to add: I went in and deleted the > ums0 entry from usbd.conf, so that it won't get attached; if I use the > serial converter so that my keyboard and mouse are serial, then /dev/psm0 > does get created; if ums0 is being cteaed first, then /dev/psm0 is > unavailble to the system for some reason, I can't get it created later on. > I need some method to delay the usb processing for the keyboard and mouse > combo UNTIL all of the PS/2 processing is finished. > > Obviously, /dev/psm0 and /dev/ums0 get along poorly. > > BTW, yes, I tried adding the ums0 back after I had the good (?) > /dev/psm0, again, the mouse cursor disappears the moment I touch the > keyboard. It flickers to life, and is immediately gone. I don't > understand abou that, your notion about running two moused processes was > aluring. > > Funny point? for the PS/2 case, rc.conf is NOT making a moused process. > That's not working. OK, that's something I can investigate. > > Again, if anyone thinks they know all of the steps to completely delete > the ps/2 mouse an dkeyboard from the system (leaving me the usb ones) let > me know, I'll try anything that looks like a complete task list. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, > chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. > > New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up > fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, > Signa Phi Nothing). > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and SF/Fantasy. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary (on the wall at my old fraternity, Signa Phi Nothing). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------