From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 12 14:15:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2C4106566C for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998788FC23 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 14:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 57A261CC033; Mon, 12 May 2008 07:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:15:52 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20080512141552.GA14963@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <29626.214.13.212.30.1210554531.squirrel@www.kc8onw.net> <53004.80.91.220.50.1210576570.squirrel@www.kc8onw.net> <20080512072316.GA3845@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <58131.80.91.220.50.1210577810.squirrel@www.kc8onw.net> <20080512074541.GA4667@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <4827F91E.60102@paradise.net.nz> <48284C32.5060707@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48284C32.5060707@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, jonathan@kc8onw.net, Mark Kirkwood Subject: Re: ATA APM and NCQ support in FreeBSD atacontrol X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:15:52 -0000 On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 07:54:58AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> >>> I am too, but PRs that are 2 years old which include patches for severe >>> bugs that affect reliability of RAID is (in my opinion) not acceptable. >>> I've been spanked over saying this before ("you don't understand how >>> open source works"), but necessity easily supercedes idealism. >>> >>> Linux's libata has evolved very quickly and very well, and has multiple >>> eyes familiar with the code (in the case the author takes vacation, >>> etc.). It has the upper hand here. >>> >>> >> Linux has more eyes period, which helps a lot. In addition Linux has more >> commercial sponsorship - having said that, I've no idea if libdata >> development has had any such sponsorship... >> >> However. I do agree that we (that is FreeBSD) need more folks brave enough >> to help Soren out with the (S)ATA layer - that means people like you or me >> deciding to get our hands dirty with this code... >> > > I'm working on adding ATA/SATA support to CAM. ! Wow... I had no idea you were working on such! Ideally that'd be the best implementation. Thanks a ton for working on it! If you need someone to test patches (I figure they'll be for -CURRENT, but our test boxes run RELENG_7), let me know and I'll be more than happy to give them a shot. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |