From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 7 14:57:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03410 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:57:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03379 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24340; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:56:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA21693; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:56:58 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:56:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199808072156.PAA21693@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Terry Lambert Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads up on LFS In-Reply-To: <199808072152.OAA29583@usr02.primenet.com> References: <199808071604.KAA18835@mt.sri.com> <199808072152.OAA29583@usr02.primenet.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Let's repeat part of it again, since you appear to have missed it: > > > > until the GC hits a steady state. > > Let's repeat it in uppercase: > > > > UNTIL THE GC HITS A STEADY STATE. > > Now let's repeat one of your statements: > > > *worst case* I've even seen in Java is about 2 * 500K-1MB objects not > > being GC'd in about 1 second on a heavily loaded (~100% CPU) bound > > machine. > > Sounds like "a steady state"; specifically, it sounds like a steady state > of the class "pool retention time based recovery latency". There is no 'steady state' in Java. It's a regular occurance that occurs all the time. > > This is not 'leaking live a sieve', as you so ignorantly put. > > No, this is 'leaking like a sieve until the GC hits a steady state'; See above. > it is *you* who 'so ignorantly' took a portion of my statement out > of the context of its limitation criteria to make it look like I > was somehow claiming an implementation bug that doesn't exist instead > of a language design bug that does (to wit, the reliance on garbage > collection). See above. You imply a functionality in the VM that doesn't exist. > > Do you even own a pilot? > > I run "xcopilot" So, you don't own a pilot. > > Have you even attempted to run a Java VM on it? > > No. The memory is too small. No, it's not. Java runs fine on it, but its useless for anything significant. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message