From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 15:53:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDB916A542; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:53:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF73E43D46; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:53:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from David.Bear@asu.edu) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0I4J00C01YLX11@asu.edu>; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:49:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtp.asu.edu (smtp.asu.edu [129.219.110.107]) <0I4J00BE7YLXN5@asu.edu>; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:49:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from moroni.pp.asu.edu (moroni.pp.asu.edu [129.219.69.200]) (8.12.10/8.12.10/asu_smtp_relay,nullclient,tcp_wrapped) with ESMTP id i8OFn771016064; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:49:07 -0700 (MST) Received: by moroni.pp.asu.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id 74FA2FCF; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:48:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from post1.inre.asu.edu (post1.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.72]) by moroni.pp.asu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1D56up06685 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:06:56 -0700 Received: from conversion.post1.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1 #40110) id <0HA800501E7K1N@asu.edu> for iddwb@moroni.pp.asu.edu (ORCPT david.bear@asu.edu); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1 #40110) with ESMTP id <0HA800424E7JT7@asu.edu> for iddwb@moroni.pp.asu.edu (ORCPT david.bear@asu.edu); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8E655441; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:50 -0800 Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 538) id 1BCEA37B405; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3A932E8019; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:48 -0800 Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4CC37B401 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.tenebras.com (laptop.tenebras.com [66.92.188.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4087243F93 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:47 -0800 (PST envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: (qmail 61998 invoked from network); Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:06:46 +0000 Received: from sapphire.tenebras.com (HELO tenebras.com) (192.168.188.241) by 0 with SMTP; Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:06:46 +0000 From: Michael Sierchio In-reply-to: <3E4B2433.70301@pantherdragon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG To: dwbear75@gmail.com Message-id: <3E4B27E6.6010501@tenebras.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Old-To: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 Lines: 21 References: <3E4A5B77.5080103@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3E4A863E.2030801@potentialtech.com> <3E4A8EF5.1070308@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3E4A9712.8030609@potentialtech.com> <3E4AA331.5040701@ant.uni-bremen.de> <3E4AA734.5040102@potentialtech.com> <045401c2d2db$f9d45c30$0a0aa8c0@dweebsoft.com> <20030212225631.GA10375@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <005801c2d2eb$aa5fae60$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <3E4ADDDE.5040208@pantherdragon.org> <3E4B138F.26E32E75@mindspring.com> <3E4B2433.70301@pantherdragon.org> cc: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is there no JFS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:53:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:06:46 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 15:53:25 -0000 Darren Pilgrim wrote: >> Soft updates are disable on / by default because of the chicken >> and egg problem of runing tunefs on /. > > > If that's the problem, then why doesn't sysinstall enable it by default > when partitioning for a new install? You can certainly change the options in sysinstall to force Softupdates on / In general, there's little to be gained from it -- on most systems, / is essentially a read-only filesystem, with very little metadata changed except for atime. BTW, IIRC you can certainly 'tunefs -n enable /' while in single-user mode. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message