From owner-freebsd-java Fri Jul 12 3: 5: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A64737B400 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from draco.macsch.com (ns1.mscsoftware.com [192.207.69.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3D043E64 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Georg.Koltermann@mscsoftware.com) Received: from mailmuc.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com (mailmuc.muc.macsch.com [161.34.37.20]) by draco.macsch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17505; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailmuc.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g6CA2Hp07016; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:02:17 +0200 Cc: Bill Huey , Marc Recht , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Date: 12 Jul 2002 12:02:35 +0200 From: "Georg-W. Koltermann" In-Reply-To: <3D2DA032.2090403@bowtie.nl> Message-Id: <1026468155.21093.10.camel@hunter.muc.macsch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Received: from hunter.muc.macsch.com by mailmuc.muc.eu.mscsoftware.com (AvMailGate-2.0.0.6) id 06975-6DEED17D; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:01:59 +0200 References: <20020710234814.GE2394@gnuppy.monkey.org> <15660.64672.311655.234760@emerger.yogotech.com> <1026385676.781.30.camel@leeloo.intern.geht.de> <20020711111817.GA8289@gnuppy.monkey.org> <1026389333.781.49.camel@leeloo.intern.geht.de> <20020711145417.GA2578@gnuppy.monkey.org> <3D2DA032.2090403@bowtie.nl> Subject: Re: 1.3.1 patchset 7 not quite ready To: Marc van Kempen X-AntiVirus: OK! AntiVir MailGate Version 2.0.0.6 at mailmuc has not found any known virus in this email. X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am Do, 2002-07-11 um 17.11 schrieb Marc van Kempen: > Bill Huey wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 02:08:52PM +0200, Marc Recht wrote: > > > >>Cool! Can we've a patch ? Pretty please. :-) > > > > > > Another thing that I need to ask is what's the relevance > > of me working on HotSpot if you, say, could possibly run > > it under Linux emulation ? Would it still be critical if > > that was the case ? > > > > I'm not sure if that would really help. Right now support for hotspot under the > Linux emulation is broken because of the complicated stuff that sun uses to > make their hotspot compiler running. This has been so ever since 1.3 came out, > which is about two years ago now. So if you (or someone else) would make it > work for now, it would propably still be an ongoing effort with every new > release of the jdk for linux. Or at least that's what I'm afraid of. Oh sure, having the native HotSpot is much prefereable to having Linux HotSpot -- *BUT* keep in mind that Linux HotSpot is maintained by SUN, and therefore is available WAY EARLIER with every JDK release. I think that now that green threads are gone from JDK 1.4+, it is even more important that we are able to run the Linux HotSpot. Otherwise we would always have this one-year (or so) gap between the Linux release date of a new JDK and the FreeBSD availability date. I'm not saying that the FreeBSD porting is too slow when it takes one year, this time lag is the sum of several factors. However fast we are in porting, we will have to wait for SUNs source release of a new JDK, and that's usually quite a bit after the first binary releases, or isn't it? -- Regards, Georg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message