From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 13:56:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35F7106564A for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A42F8FC14 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnq2 with SMTP id q2so7880770ggn.13 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:56:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :disposition-notification-to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer; bh=PaO13ScOxXzrDQYrxFBQ7zK/UHuoHLrATrksz6gDKjo=; b=b+b6IRsRybHs64wXMByUFRnkrEk5OMzVKYJQLq0ImF7N7PIaJUW8jsrRRiIHKtXYMS BNMxA7rT/GB18ViJX+Br5ySxYzJph1VPJGEM88azzLnrqHs5wAku15gHx7gdBlxMrhMW otN1hkPfQYFtKQLdeQtIxd3e+YuuUMu0i0SxI= Received: by 10.150.59.19 with SMTP id h19mr8916625yba.41.1320069411645; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.6.230] ([201.21.151.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l18sm25145640anb.22.2011.10.31.06.56.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Fbsd8 In-Reply-To: <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> References: <4EAD2070.3020903@aboutsupport.com> <1319987010.21810.13.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> <4EAE4173.7010603@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:56:44 -0200 Message-ID: <1320069404.35399.21.camel@z6000.lenzicasa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Peter , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Solution for school lab just a thought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:56:52 -0000 > You should look into the Freebsd port qjail. At our school lab all the > pcs have ms/windows on the hard drive with the "putty" client installed. > Students use putty to get logged into a jail on a single Freebsd system. > Each student can practice installing ports, packages, or one of the > desktop window environments in their private jail. The goal being to > teach students to be system administrators. Humm Interesting... In my case the computers runs FreeBSD (diskless) and they need do access windows system. In a public school, where the $$$ is the main problem, I think this is the solution. Here the school has computers (a lot) that receives from donation, projects... from time to time the problem is the software... What to teach to children??? word, exel, powerpoint, msn??? is this teaching??? I think that children (and teenagers too), must face problems and resolve them. the world belongs tho those that work in group. those who can get answers, so an account in a desktop environment (in my case: gnome) with several program languages, internet access, text composing (libreoffice), postscript printing (cups), some IDE (anjuta, eclipse), multimedia (ffmpeg, avidemux2, openshot, dvdstyler) can make the difference. They can download small videos from their phones, and produce digital media, share it on DVDs... the home lesson is send via email (everyone has email).. One problem is hand-witten... no one wants to hand write now... Those who foresee the future, can learn how to code GUI interface, and so produce software for the community. They can learn how to install admin FreeBSD servers, share files in the network, use webdav to share files in internet... and so on... There is a need for people with this knowledge... The society will buy from the students as long as they produce good software.. What is the other alternative??? finish high school and than look for a job??? XXI century there is no jobs, there will be working people... Those who can succeed working for himself will rule.. That is what I teach to my boys... They worked hard (12 years)... and now they rule.. Do you really think that this world crisis will end in 10 years??? Just a thought... Sergio