From owner-cvs-all Wed Apr 3 10:37: 6 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE0337B41C for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:36:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16786 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2002 18:36:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 3 Apr 2002 18:36:53 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g33Ibbv24205; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:37:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <28699.1017857530@winston.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 13:36:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade Cc: imp@village.org, des@ofug.org, pst@pst.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, winter@jurai.net, Mikhail Teterin Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 03-Apr-2002 Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> But .zip is noticeably bigger than .tar.gz. Not to mention, .tar.bz2. >> And the package size is what's of the highest priority, IMHO, since >> disks and especially bandwidth don't grow nearly as fast as the CPU >> speeds. > > You must live outside the US, that's all I can say. That assertion > is completely false here. > > I would also argue that package size is of the highest priority - > that's patently untrue. What's the highest priority in packaging > formats is providing enough power and mechanism to make the package > installation experience a lot more robust and user-friendly. Disks > are getting so cheap and so large (in even the most humble user > configurations) that I'd probably put package size _last_. > > I also live in the middle of the woods with redwood trees and all > sorts of wildlife around and even I have 1.5MBit worth of downstream > bandwidth via my ADSL line. Just imagine how well-connected all those > city people must be! :-) In mi's defense, you also live in the Bay Area. I don't think Groggy has 1.5 DSL. :) That said, I think that zip can actually result in less traffic in some cases (like in the "fat" packages you described to me 2+ years ago). -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message