From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Dec 21 22:30:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5BE37B405 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dave.2u2.nu (a213-84-42-178.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.42.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA7043EE5 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lj@2u2.nu) Received: from dave.2u2.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C84736DFD; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 07:31:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from LUCIOMOBILE (ns1.2u2.nu [62.59.31.66]) by dave.2u2.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA8B36DEF; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 07:31:11 +0100 (MET) From: "L. Jankok" To: "'Jonathon McKitrick'" , Subject: RE: FreeBSD's momentum and future prospects Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 07:30:42 +0100 Organization: Tron Internet Consultancy Message-ID: <000001c2a983$a7233eb0$101f170a@LUCIOMOBILE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20021221231417.GB32071@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think the BSD's are missing one important aspect; A HCL with complete configurations from the big players like IBM, Dell and Compaq. Big costumers feel more confident to use for instance Suse Linux on their new bought proliants because Compaq tells them that their hardware is certified for that particulair distribution. Another point is support; RedHat and Suse are big names and they sell support for their Linux server distribution.. I was recently involved in a situation were a Solaris server park had to be replaced by an open source alternative. The customer wanted a support model with the best approximation to SUN's and found that in the Suse Linux certified Compaq machines with a full year of support. The customers told me that he wanted to use OpenBSD in his DMZ and FreeBSD for his Web and Proxy Servers but that he just couldn't sell this to the board because they wanted to see certified hardware (and not a HCL with hardware parts) and full support. Cheers, Lucio Jankok : -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- : Van: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG : [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG] Namens Jonathon McKitrick : Verzonden: zondag 22 december 2002 00:14 : Aan: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; freebsd-chat@freebsd.org : Onderwerp: FreeBSD's momentum and future prospects : : : : I like to ask this question every once in a while, since the : scene is always changing and there are different people : reading the various lists. : : How do YOU personally think the BSD's are doing as far as : developer momentum, innovation, and other forms of progress : that will continue to attract the needed attention to keep : moving forward and keep BSD in the spotlight as a valid : alternative OS? Do you think 5.0 will be a great leap : forward in this regard? It seems like it will be, but Linux : is also moving forward, from what I have heard, its : networking is continuing to improve with every release, and : it has also garnered commercial interest. : : Just thought I'd collect the latest opinions, news, rants, : and flames on where we're going. :-) : : NOTE: Please CC me, as I am not currently subscribed. Thanks. : : jm : -- : My other computer is your windows box. : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message