From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 15 00:39:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B39B37B401 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2370043FE5 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:39:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h7F7deDo026969; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:09:41 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Terry Lambert Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:09:39 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200308141017.h7EAHoOI089193@grimreaper.grondar.org> <3F3C8892.88A4B58D@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3F3C8892.88A4B58D@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308151709.39613.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Mark Murray Subject: Re: HEADSUP: pca driver being retired. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:39:47 -0000 On Friday 15 August 2003 16:45, Terry Lambert wrote: > Mark Murray wrote: > > I see considerable scope for an infrastructure that would allow drivers > > to be ports. _Easily_. > > This is a good idea. > > I think if this infrastructure already existed, then many people > would make their drivers into ports. Until then, though, the > drivers will likely have to be part of the kernel. > > Would it be a useful exercise for the people who want drivers to > be ports instead of being in the kernel to provide this facility > for driver writers to use? See comms/ltmdm, x11/nvidia-driver, audio/aureal-kmod, comms/mwavem etc.. They already build fine.. The problem I find is that when you update your kernel the port doesn't get rebuilt, so reasonably often this results in your machine going *boom* when the port loads its module. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5