From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 11 14:12:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549B31065670 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uffe@uffe.org) Received: from mail.starion.dk (mx0.starion.dk [83.95.112.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA9FB8FC1C for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20084 invoked by uid 528); 11 Nov 2010 14:13:08 -0000 Received: from 212.130.59.4 ([212.130.59.4]) by mail.starion.dk ([192.168.0.100]) with ESMTP via TCP; 11 Nov 2010 14:13:08 -0000 Message-ID: <4CDBF9DF.5090207@uffe.org> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:12:47 +0100 From: Uffe Jakobsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100512 Thunderbird/3.0.5 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <20101111132141.49592qovwxlndt4w@webmail.df.eu> <4CDBEBAD.7080505@uffe.org> <20101111144314.11253q7idnuj04qo@webmail.df.eu> In-Reply-To: <20101111144314.11253q7idnuj04qo@webmail.df.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Acer Travelmate 8371 bricked by installing FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 14:12:49 -0000 On 11/11/10 14.43, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > > I wonder if that would work if I changed the BIOS accordingly *before* > installing the OS. Like you - I did not see this problem before installing FBSD and them it was too late for me After FBSD install I could not boot or get into the bios and change the SATA emu-mode setting - that is where the removal of the disk is needed - since this will enable you to get past that hanging bios point and get into the bios setup again I believe that *IF* I'd changed the mentioned setting before installing FBSD the (hanging bios) problem would never have occoured. > I loathe removing the HDD as I'm not exactly sure > how to get it out without damaging the case - removing the two obvious > screws was not enough to remove the HDD lid. Damaging the case will > make it hard to return the laptop (I can return it within 14 days of > purchase). hmmm I see - I did try to see if it would boot from external usb floppy, usb cdrom or usb memory stick - but it did not seem to get that far into the bios startup... > > Also, did you notice any performance problems after changing this setting? > No not really - I still use this setting - if I change it back to AHCI and reboot it will start "hanging" again - and then the only way to get back into the bios setup again it the disk removal-trick... >> >> Question: did you install the FBSD BootManager or just a std MBR ? >> > > I did, because I use it also on multi-boot boxes. Come to think of it, > it doesn't really make sense on this laptop though. Does your question > imply that the FreeBSD boot manager may screw up things sufficiently > to make booting impossible? > I have no proof at this point - but I suspect the FBSD BootManager to be the one to blame when used in combination with the ahci sata emulation setting... but I'm by no means an expert in these things - and I did never get to the bottom of the problem... /Uffe