From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 14:45:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FE11065672 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zantgo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f173.google.com (mail-vx0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626328FC16 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so1042426vcb.18 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=OH145u9KLhcvibFyIyWjVeWz3pX4sMXqBqC3KhPEpeg=; b=Bl97QQrfH6r+9ggfq72a1zvyMjTQtUv4irlBKJHHh7m2KvqFwctXF2L/osP9WMwf3I 18unqMh9MANwJlNKdi4igZm4SBxLEEk7LWJCst7Qw2pijHg4QUKqGpXeqaOaAb6cgxFU w4X+LyjDfrqGVC1i50FtERGC1J/MAOlOa9/2c= Received: by 10.52.94.97 with SMTP id db1mr4477700vdb.67.1320072343991; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([181.42.66.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id et7sm3750706vdc.18.2011.10.31.07.45.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) References: <20111031040545.cc7d874f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <557A48F1-B4A0-407D-A8F1-1502990AE31E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPod Mail (9A334) From: Zantgo Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:45:44 -0300 To: Joe Gain Cc: Alejandro Imass , Polytropon , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: The ports are really funcional? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:45:45 -0000 then, as the system must be configured?, I thought as I was was perfect. I h= ave a laptop with intel core i5.=20 PS: I think that occupying FreeBSD or OpenBSD, and you should consider ;) Zantgo El 31-10-2011, a las 6:12, Joe Gain escribi=C3=B3: > I agree, the ports are *amazing*. Even when installing a major component > like kde4. If you have your base system set up correctly this very complex= > task will generally complete flawlessly. For a first-time install you can > accept most of the default options when configuring, but it's probably not= > a good idea to just blindly accept every default. >=20 > Experiment with the different port management software until you find > something which you like. Read the documentation about dealing with common= > issues, making backups, saving compiler/ installation errors, etc. >=20 > If you are having many problems with ports which require few dependencies,= > you may have a non-ports related issue of some kind. >=20 > My entire system is ports based and I belong more to the user than the > hacker class. >=20 > Good luck! >=20 > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Polytropon wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:36:44 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> For very large packages such as the graphics system, open or libre >>> office etc. it's much better to use binary versions via pkg_add. It's >>> a waste of time to compile these very large suites and most of the >>> time you will get the config options wrong, and they take forever to >>> compile. >>=20 >> Exceptions: >>=20 >> 1) You need language-specific settings. >> Example: OpenOffice in German. >>=20 >> 2) You need others than the default options, e. g. if you >> want to include or exclude some stuff. >> Example: OpenOffice without KDE. >>=20 >> 3) You need options to be set at compile time that do differ >> from the default options from which the binary packages >> are made, or because of "artificially shit in your pants" >> legal requirements and restrictions. >> Example: mplayer with mencoder and all (!) codecs >>=20 >> 4) You need to speed up things to make them run on older >> hardware, and you fight for every optimization. >> Example: mplayer's RUNTIME_CPU_DETECTION. >>=20 >> But this is, I think, a case for 1% of users only. You >> hardly need to do that. In most cases, the default options >> are fine, and the binary packages just work. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> For things you want to tailor and optimize to your needs then use the >>> ports system. FBSD is so cool that it doesn't matter if you install >>> one way or the other and you can use almost all methods >>> interchangeably. >>=20 >> A managament tool (such as portmaster or portupgrade) helps >> to keep an eye on dependencies when using the many possible >> ways. >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > joe gain >=20 > jacob-burckhardt-str. 16 > 78464 konstanz > germany >=20 > +49 (0)7531 60389 >=20 > (...otherwise in ???) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g"