From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 11 23:15:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D80F16A4CE for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:15:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sage.ts.co.nz (sage.tasman.net [202.49.92.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DE943D2F for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:15:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcos@ThePacific.Net) Received: from sage.ts.co.nz ([172.16.21.1]) by sage.ts.co.nz (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iABNFj8Q031815 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:15:46 +1300 Received: from [172.16.20.10] (gateway-nelson.thepacific.net [202.49.95.33]) by sage.ts.co.nz (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iABNEDRH030526; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:14:13 +1300 Message-ID: <4194A8EA.8050602@ThePacific.Net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:13:30 +0000 From: "Marcos Biscaysaqu - ThePacific.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040910) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <55F19F12C7F1B24BB429BA7F6305353E118BA9@exchange.polarcom.intern> <41947D59.6010402@ThePacific.Net> <419471F4.3060009@ispro.net.tr> In-Reply-To: <419471F4.3060009@ispro.net.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Atheros driver supporting 2 SSIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:15:47 -0000 We are already doing that, with multiples APs. We got more than 300 BSD clients connecting to the APs, but that solutions it is good, but still has some problems, the biggest problem is when the AP send and recive inthe same time. the Atheros cards already split the traffic in rx/tx to run as a turbo option, what I say is if we could send the tx traffic one way and the rx in other way, will fix 80% of the WISP problem. this it is already prove with some commecial unit spliting the rx/tx traffic creating speed up to 45Mb/s each way, with no colitions and very smooth connections (Aeras, Orthogon, mikrotik). Im no idea how the chipset and the driver work, what Im very sure is if this is possible it is a very atractive option for outdoor wireless. cheers Marcos Biscaysaqu ThePacific.net Evren Yurtesen wrote: > Is it practical in any sense to do that? I mean using one card in 2 > different frequencies. The card should change frequency every time it > wants to send a packet since it should receive acknowledgements(I > assume receive only card do not send acknowledgements?) plus tcp etc. > require such things also. I think it would cause a lot of latency. > > Also I think you wont get too far doing that. Still there will be > collusions when 2 clients want to send data at the same time. > > The better solution might be using 2 cards tx/rx in ap and try to set > the client channels that half of your clients will use one card and > the other half will use the other card. This can be done easily I > guess. But the best would be using directional antennas, if you want > to use 2 cards then you can use 180degrees panel antennas and make 2 > sectors. Also this solution doesnt require any special setup in > clients. You can use any kind of software easily. > > Evren > > Marcos Biscaysaqu - ThePacific.net wrote: > >> Hi There >> I know mikrotik does it, Im use mikrotik as AP, but my idea is 2 >> wireless cards on mikrotik AP, one as rx and the other as tx. but on >> the bsd client only 1 card we the option to split the traffic in 2 >> SSIDs one for the rx and one for the tx traffic, we this option we >> will be able to put twices BSD clients per AP or more, plus fix all >> the colitions problem, get a lot of new utilities to the atheros >> driver etc... >> will be possible??? >> >> cheers >> Marcos Biscaysaqu >> >> Arve Seljebu wrote: >> >>> In Mikrotiks software (http://www.mikrotik.com), you could set which >>> antenna output on the PCI/miniPCI-card to use(output 1 or 2). The >>> option to use Tx and Rx on different antenna output is also >>> possible. So in theory this should be possible on FreeBSD too, but I >>> don't know if been implemented. >>> >>> Arve Seljebu >>> >>> -----Opprinnelig melding----- >>> Fra: Marcos Biscaysaqu - ThePacific.net [mailto:marcos@ThePacific.Net] >>> Sendt: 9. november 2004 17:20 >>> Til: freebsd-current@freebsd.org >>> Emne: split rx and tx traffic on Atheros crads..... >>> >>> >>> Hi there. >>> Please let me know if I am crazy. >>> One of the biggest problems on the wireless traffic in WISPs start >>> when the Access Point start to get a lot incoming and outgoing >>> traffic in the same time, I was thinking if we could run 2 wireless >>> cards both as Access Point but one card as rx only and another as tx >>> mode, plus if we could just set 2 ssid in a Bsd client one for rx >>> and other as tx we could increase the bandwidth on the Access point >>> in two times and make the connections work a lot smooth and faster ( >>> im not sure if this is possible I could be very wrong) at the same >>> time If this it is possible we could run 2 wireless cards each end >>> with the rx and the tx separeted and get for example 108mb each way >>> (with dual polarization antennas). >>> >>> cheers >>> Marcos Biscaysaqu >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> **************************************************************************** >>> >>> Denne mail har blitt scannet av http://www.virus112.no >>> This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by http://www.virus112.no >>> **************************************************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >