From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 14 17:29:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5182616A412 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E86343D7E for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:29:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so940278wri for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:29:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JVd0RzzjH7HvuzwUf7BjTdBiNgHwJk5zbuYiWnHA1lVaEG3+uuxeZeX1TS9KksM+r7lmFgD4Iz4MDcbzk8aAXP97jBdyp8dqjHEeZ3Z3AQy8d4eiMDkbLraGnbvxPfgH+YNToL/f96r9oSN/6NLU9nJEJFZ3bTulHK1txHL160o= Received: by 10.90.28.12 with SMTP id b12mr3381730agb; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.80.18 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3ee9ca710609141029t3d7b9893t237b6c76ea848d80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:29:38 -0400 From: "Andy Greenwood" To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20060914172015.GA54814@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <62007.209.103.215.99.1158241221.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20060914160919.GB53648@xor.obsecurity.org> <200609141253.15187.gerard@seibercom.net> <20060914172015.GA54814@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDStats project, interesting returns from OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:29:46 -0000 What about making it a sysinstall option? Not in the base install, but the option is presented when setting up a new box. On 9/14/06, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 12:53:04PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:09, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > > One should not conclude anything until the numbers are much larger > > > than they are now, because small fluctuations from e.g. regional > > > promotion of bsdstats in one country but not another, or one large > > > company deploying it on all machine, will dramatically change your > > > "conclusions". > > > > I was just wondering if there is any consensus on adding BSDStats to the > > base system? If would appear to be a logical step to take so as to insure > > that all users of FBSD would be counted. An end user could always disable > > the sending of data by disabling it in the /etc/rc.file. I feel that unless > > it is part of the base system and turned on by default, too many users will > > never take part in the reporting process. > > I highly doubt that it would be enabled by default in FreeBSD, since > many of our users (or their employers) would consider it a privacy > breach to have their systems reporting back automatically. > > Kris > > > -- I'm nerdy in the extreme and whiter than sour cream