From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 27 16:16:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BC414D88 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08238; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:14:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd008213; Tue Jul 27 16:14:17 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00814; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:14:15 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199907272314.QAA00814@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! To: huppe@execpc.com (Len Huppe) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:14:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: asmodai@wxs.nl, des@flood.ping.uio.no, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <379D20CA.F7EC7E15@execpc.com> from "Len Huppe" at Jul 26, 99 10:00:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As a newcomer to FreeBSD, I am intersted in knowing why so many of you > *hate* bash. Speaking for myself, it's because people who don't know better depend upon its features, rendering shell scripts non-portable. In order to run these scripts, you have to install bash. In order to do that, you have to run "configure". In order to do that, you have to install GNU "make". ... It's a hellish web of interdependency, which could have been avoided, had no one installed bash. Of course, some people blame the idiots who put "bash-isms" in their scripts, but you really can't blame the people who drive automatics for your inability to rent a manual transmission car, right? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message