From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Nov 12 22:20:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E67237B479 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 22:19:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eAD6FkX33322; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:45:46 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:45:46 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: opentrax@email.com Cc: lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: accessing portal site Message-ID: <20001113164546.O32175@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20001113143936.C32175@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200011130610.WAA05168@spammie.svbug.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200011130610.WAA05168@spammie.svbug.com>; from opentrax@email.com on Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 10:10:28PM -0800 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 12 November 2000 at 22:10:28 -0800, opentrax@email.com wrote: > > > On 13 Nov, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Sunday, 12 November 2000 at 20:18:57 -0500, Lanny Baron wrote: >>> >>> You may not like my "tone". Which is to me,is unimportant in this >>> issue. The ISSUE was, Intel not allowing non I.E. browsers to >>> access the portal and other private to channel users, site(s). >>> >>> .....[Trimmed massive malarque].... >>> >>> This is not some apologetic answer back. This is to defend my >>> warranted mail as a person whom is dedicated to promoting FreeBSD. >> >> As I said, you're welcome to do what you want as long as you don't >> involve us. >> >>> In no way did I make any representation or link between myself and The >>> FreeBSD Project or any of its communities. >> >> By copying -advocacy, you implied exactly that. Please don't do it >> again. You're more than welcome to behave in whatever manner you see >> fit, but have the courtesy to not raise the impression that >> FreeBSD-advocacy is behind you. >> > I disagree with your last statement, Greg. > > I will concure(sp?) that the original posting has no business in > Advocacy@freebsd.org. I also agree that his topic is definitely of > subject. I further agree that using a more diplomatic approach > does have it merits and at times can be more effective that > the 'gunshot and dynamite' method. > > As I see this posting, this person is informing us of some > rather important information, which we might want to take note of. > The topic, while NOT belonging to 'advocacy', is of importance > to those who advocacte *BSD. Personally I can recount many > such stories, but this is not about me. > > I should finish by saying that while this person's information > is important to those who advocate *BSD. There seems to be > no one willing to 'step up to the plate' and deal with this > information so that we might make effective use of it. Sorry, maybe I need to clarify my statement. I don't have an issue with Lanny copying the list on the followups; as you say, it's certainly of interest, especially since he has been successful. My concern is the same as yours, that he shouldn't have copied us on his initial message to Intel. I wouldn't have objected if he had sent the message to Intel and then forwarded it to us. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message